Flatline wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 21:57:

ASeven wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 20:56:
3.4 million and it didn't meet sales targets. This industry cannot survive with these numbers anymore.

I'd say that's a problem with Square-Enix more than with the industry. SE is hemorrhaging money and can't keep it up. They probably predicted 5 million units pushed in the first week. Maybe more. Which is absurdly unrealistic.

Xero wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 15:25:
Looks pretty snazzy but I couldn't help but roll my eyes when those 5 or 6 security guards were shooting with assault rifles at him and none of them could hit him, then he turns around and pops nearly all of them. Typical...lol

Creston wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 14:53:

Beamer wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 11:47:
In the grand internet tradition of judging everyone else's lifestyle choices, this dude is batshit.

Yeah, I don't think any other word really fits.

Creston

jdreyer wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 14:52:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 14:34:
Outside of the interactive NPCs, is there an explanation for why there are a total of, perhaps, seven models of NPC throughout the whole of the gameworld?

Generic Black Dude
Generic Black Chick
Generic Blonde Dude with Blue eyes (young)
Generic Blonde Dude with Blue eyes (slightly older)
Generic Blonde Chick with Blue eyes
Generic Auburn Chick with Brown eyes
Generic White Dude with Blue Eyes (Same as the slightly older blonde dude but with no hair).

Um, because creating unique art assets is expensive? See Oblivion, The Elder Scrolls.

RollinThundr wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 13:13:

jdreyer wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 12:28:
Beamer vs. Thundr:

DETENTE

Not a fair fight, I have logic, common sense and economics on my side.

Creston wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 11:11:

Beamer wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 09:56:

Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 08:55:
Jason Rohrer doesn't exactly seem to be playing with a full deck either...

I love the interview with him from a few years back that begins with his children running around naked in his yard.

His older-than-four-years-old children.

o_O

Okay... To be honest, I kinda like the idea of burying a game in the desert, though somehow I doubt it's going to be playable after a single year, much less 2000.

Creston

deqer wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 10:34:

Des wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 08:05:
Guess I'll buy this in 6 months time, when the game costs less, is bundled with all the DLC to make it an 'Actual' Simcity game (subways, thermoforming), and when all the bugs are fixed and standard features are implemented

How about you just NOT BUY IT AT ALL? You ever think of that is being an option? Don't be one of the sheeple.

Do yourself a favor, and buy SimCity 4. That's what everyone else is doing. That's the trend.

Similar trend where people went with WinXP, then SKIPPED Vista, and went to Windows7. Well, you need to Skip this new SimCity, and just stick with SimCity 4.

Verno wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 10:09:
I should weigh in for posterity as well. I think it's going to under perform based on the software I'm seeing. As a little emulator box that might run XBMC I can see that working with a certain enthusiast audience but I just don't see it going any further than that to a mass market.

Of course companies can still be profitable targeting a niche so maybe they can carve out something for themselves.

Verno wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 09:48:
Bookmarked this thread for future reference, some very wild claims made in it that will be attributed properly later

Frags4Fun wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 08:51:
The War Z guy is out of his mind. Totally nuts.

Mr. Tact wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 08:55:
Jason Rohrer doesn't exactly seem to be playing with a full deck either...

RollinThundr wrote on Mar 29, 2013, 08:13:

Beamer wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 20:02:

RollinThundr wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 18:21:

Beamer wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 16:33:

PHJF wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 16:18:
Oh and this kind of stuff, like the slow fall of tobacco, isn't going to happen overnight. You can't flip a switch and suddenly everyone is on the path to good clean living. The best thing you can do is educate and condition kids and hope it sticks. This was just on CNBC:

U.S. soda consumption fell in 2012 for the eighth-straight year, this time by 1.2 percent to levels not seen since the Clinton administration, according to new beverage statistics.

Then again those putrescent "energy drinks" saw another meteoric gain.

You can't flip a switch, but you can lead people to it. Part of the reason smoking is so low is the taxation. The government didn't flip that switch, it's gradually increased.

Of course, doing that on unhealthy food is difficult. As you mention, it's socioeconomical, and food is a necessity. Feeding a family of 5 is a whole lot easier on a McDonald's Dollar Menu than on salad. And the bread that is sold in stores may be kind of gross with partially hydrogenated soybean oil, tons of salt and tons of sugar, but all that stuff makes it last longer, meaning less goes bad, it's easier to transport, etc., which lowers costs.

It's a bad situation.
I do think, though, that attacking the liquid calories isn't a bad idea. Coke just launched FruitWater, which they market as a healthy alternative to soda. It has no fruit. None. Not a drop. Hell, most "juices" in the supermarket are no more than 10% juice.
Maybe getting more strict on the crap companies produce and how they market it would be a step in the right direction.

And by leading people, you mean run their lives for them. Coax them to do what you think is right.

If consuming less complete shit ruins lives, well, let's ruin them.
Also, you're a drama queen.

It's more so calling it what it is, democrats have this whole control issue. Not sure why, maybe one of the key components to leaning to the left is have a touch of narcissism.

RollinThundr wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 18:21:

Beamer wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 16:33:

PHJF wrote on Mar 28, 2013, 16:18:
Oh and this kind of stuff, like the slow fall of tobacco, isn't going to happen overnight. You can't flip a switch and suddenly everyone is on the path to good clean living. The best thing you can do is educate and condition kids and hope it sticks. This was just on CNBC:

U.S. soda consumption fell in 2012 for the eighth-straight year, this time by 1.2 percent to levels not seen since the Clinton administration, according to new beverage statistics.

Then again those putrescent "energy drinks" saw another meteoric gain.

You can't flip a switch, but you can lead people to it. Part of the reason smoking is so low is the taxation. The government didn't flip that switch, it's gradually increased.

Of course, doing that on unhealthy food is difficult. As you mention, it's socioeconomical, and food is a necessity. Feeding a family of 5 is a whole lot easier on a McDonald's Dollar Menu than on salad. And the bread that is sold in stores may be kind of gross with partially hydrogenated soybean oil, tons of salt and tons of sugar, but all that stuff makes it last longer, meaning less goes bad, it's easier to transport, etc., which lowers costs.

It's a bad situation.
I do think, though, that attacking the liquid calories isn't a bad idea. Coke just launched FruitWater, which they market as a healthy alternative to soda. It has no fruit. None. Not a drop. Hell, most "juices" in the supermarket are no more than 10% juice.
Maybe getting more strict on the crap companies produce and how they market it would be a step in the right direction.

And by leading people, you mean run their lives for them. Coax them to do what you think is right.