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News Comments > Evening Interviews
67. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 19:15 Beamer
 
Cpmartins wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 18:31:
"I believe that's the crux of the argument. Both have you interacting with men in a variety of ways and have men driving the plot, but only one has women doing these things."

One is about a hitman, who is a man. The other is about a chosen one, who can be a woman or a man. There is no argument. No One ever said Lara Croft has a misandric narrative. Because it doesn't. And neither does Hitman. And even if they did, it's besides the point. Developers should be allowed to do whatever they want without fear of social shaming. Notice I didn't say criticism. I meant what Patricia Hernandez (Link) did with Blood Dragon.

As for the link to the second time anita's been lying about developers introducing misogynistic elements in games for the sake of empowering male violence against women, here it is: (Link 2)


And the funny thing about the whole thing is that Josh Sawyer, both Lead Designer and Creative Director for that wonderful game contributed to her campaign, and even tweeted about it.

Stop linking to crappy youtube videos and start just telling people what's in them. I very much appreciate you linking directly to the relevant part, but I'd much rather someone say "here's what is in XXX" and then link to it. We don't all have a lot of time to watch a lot of videos and read a lot of articles. Just tell me what it says and source it. This isn't telling you you suck or a bad person, it's giving constructive feedback that would make replying to you easier and get better responses.


Regardless, you're still missing the point. Anita isn't saying "this game is bad, burn it!" She's saying "here's a pattern that's visible in multiple games." This isn't a witch hunt on her part to point out individual terrible things, it's to show evidence of broad patterns. Maybe you like some of those games. I liked some of those games. She liked some of those games. But there are wide ranging patterns she wants to show.

And she never said Hitman needed to be Hitwoman, she said it would be nice of Hitman featured a single woman that didn't exist solely to die. Or if many games did. Because many games don't.

There's a huge difference between "Here's another example of a game where the only female characters exist to die" and "Hitman is a terrible game because you can't play as a female character and everyone that enjoys Hitman is a terrible person."

She's saying the former, not the latter.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
29. Re: Op Ed Aug 28, 2014, 18:29 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 18:08:
What is "real sexism?" What is "fake sexism?"

Real Sexism = 1) a woman gamer not being able to play on a server without getting propositioned, harassed,spoken dirty to, etc. without it being solicited 2) a woman game developer getting asked "what are YOU doing making games?!?" or being condescended to because of her gender and so on...

Fake sexism = most anything that comes out of Sarkeesian's piehole, or any of the fabricated controversies by the likes of Zoey Quinn and hypocritical moralizing asshole journalists like at Kotaku, RPS, etc...

What was being done to end real sexism in gaming?

Nothing, because people like you have cried wolf too many times to be listened to when you happen to decry what may be a real case of sexism. Crazy as it may sound, male gamers don't like being told repeatedly they are shit based on the actions of a few immature twits by hypocrites, liars, and misguided white-knights. You know, people like you, who paradoxically judge all male gamers based on the actions of a minority of rude children while telling us liars and phonies like Zoey Quinn don't represent all women in gaming. I'm not really sure I care to explain this to you AGAIN. You obviously are not hearing it or don't accept it. Either way, why do you keep asking if you don't like the answer? I don't have anything against you personally, but if and when the time comes where people like you and Sarkeesian are the majority of the gaming industry, I am indeed going to "move on to other hobbies" as you put it, since gaming will have been well and truly destroyed. Score another one for extremist nutobs, I guess.

But Anita isn't telling male gamers they're shit. It's what they're hearing, but what she's doing is constructive criticism on a media she cares about that repeatedly has the same flaws.

It's the people pushing back that turn this from "hmm, wow, I never thought of this like that" to "STOP TELLING ME I'M SHIT!"

I'm sorry, again, you're saying it's what I'm refusing to hear, but it's more what people are refusing to not hear in the Tropes on Women. It isn't about "you're all wrong!" it's about "we can do this all better."

And I don't "judge all male gamers." I'm a male gamer! I don't condemn individuals, with a few exceptions on this board. But, collectively, we're not doing a very good job being inclusive. In fact, in the past week we've been doing the opposite. If you're a woman and at all interested in gaming, do you think you'd have the same level of interest after all this has gone on?
But that's the thing - male gamers, and I used to do this, take all this constructive criticism personally. Rather than think "hey, is this true?" they just say "stop judging me!"

Lastly, I fail to see how doing what Anita asks, which means occasionally having a female character to something more than get kidnapped or die, would render gaming "well and truly destroyed." Including female characters that do something other than sleep with the hero or die didn't seem to hurt Captain America 2 or Guardians of the Galaxy, the two biggest movies of the year.

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News Comments > Titanfall Adding Titan-less Mode
2. Re: Titanfall Adding Titan-less Mode Aug 28, 2014, 18:27 Beamer
 
nin wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 18:24:
Why?

Desperation.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
56. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 18:08 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 18:05:
Cpmartins wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 15:50:
"Yeah, that thunderf00t takedown does paint her in a bad light RE: Hitman. Yes, the game does allow you to do that, but you can kill women in most games, but it doesn't mean that the game is misogynistic. Most of the people you kill in Hitman are male. Also, I can kill women in Skyrim (in most RPGs in fact), but most of those games don't single out women for sexist treatment. The thing is, there's plenty of sexism in games without having to go to those lengths to portray a game as sexist."

That is one. The other is misusing Fallout: New Vegas's reputation system to lie about players not being punished when killing a girl in Freeside.
Link? I'd like to learn more.

I need to check out the Hitman thing.
I haven't seen it, obviously, but I've playe dHitman. I've played Skyrim. You can kill women in both. But you can only interact with women in ways other than killing in one.

I believe that's the crux of the argument. Both have you interacting with men in a variety of ways and have men driving the plot, but only one has women doing these things.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
55. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 18:06 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 17:14:
I'm not going to waste time on that patronizing, bloated response just to receive 5 more that I have to answer because you have an agenda to push.

It wasn't patronizing.
And I have no agenda to push.

1) I was honest that I tend to think you're a good poster
2) I was honest in saying I'd appreciate someone spelling out for me what they feel I'm doing that's dishonest. For all the posts in these threads that use my name, few get specific.
3) I never tried to engage you in anything more than using what I feel is a weasel word that diminishes an argument because both sides start foaming at the mouth when they see it.

All of this has been genuine. I'm sorry my tone isn't coming through properly and you're seeing it as patronizing or insulting. It isn't easy in topics like this to come across as genuine, even when you're meaning to be. People just see flames.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
26. Re: Op Ed Aug 28, 2014, 17:38 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 17:21:
all the while destroying the cause of ending real sexism in gaming. Sir William absolutely nailed it.
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What was being done to end real sexism in gaming?
What is "real sexism?" What is "fake sexism?"

Using all this "real" stuff just feels like when someone pops in and says something along the lines of "Star Citizen is crap and real gamers know this!" The ambiguous "real" meaning "people that agree with me are more valid than those that don't."

In any case, large amounts of people inside the industry have come out supporting people like Anita. It's the fans that are flaying her. I'd say that's real change. It's those in the studios that can actually change things, and if they're supporting her, the fans will either follow or find new hobbies.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
49. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 17:05 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 17:02:
Don't even get me started on you with your false narratives and issue deflection.

No, please start.
In the first thread all I tried to do was stop you from using that term, because you were the first "good" poster here to use it. You kept throwing different issues at me, issues I had no strong opinion on and no interest in addressing. If anything you were deflecting, because you were just throwing more and more at me that didn't feel important to whether the term "SJW" was a fair one or not. I have not taken a stance on Zoe, because I know nothing about her and so much of the information coming out about her makes no sense, on both sides, and the arguments have zoomed out in so many directions that seem to have nothing to do with her that, frankly, why bother? I wasn't asking you not to give your opinion on her, and I wasn't challenging you on her, I was pointing out that you were using a weak term. You were reading into that.

At this point that's moot.



But please, not enough people here that have an issue with me actually address it. People like Mad Max just throw out random insults without backing anything up. People like ASeven throw up some incoherent imgur without even giving context to it.
I'd be pretty happy with some nice bullet points of what I've done where. It's asking a lot, sure, but I feel I'm being put in an unfair light here. You know, much like you think all of games are, but at least people like Anita make a bullet pointed, cited presentation. It's hard to respond to "please don't use SJW, it damages any point you're making" "BUT THE GAMING MEDIA," "yeah, I don't care about the gaming media, I'm just saying, you're hurting your own point," "BUT SHE SLEPT WITH FIVE GUYS," "yeah, how she uses her vagina is her own issue, I'm just saying, using that term makes your argument weaker," "BUT HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT SHE LIED?" That's all scattershot, hard to follow, across about 40 different posts, seem unconnected to anything, and assumed a huge amount of my "SJW is a loaded, blanket term that most people turn their brains off after seeing, and a better conversation comes from not using it, just like how supposed 'SJWs' lose any credibility by calling gamers 'closeted virgins.'"
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
47. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 16:57 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 16:54:
yuastnav wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 16:38:
In the end it comes down to morality but if someone's stance is "I don't care about sexism/racism/etc., I just want to play my video games." then that person is a fucking arsehole and a poor excuse for a human being. But that's just my personal moral stance. I think Daniel Dennett partly refers to that as being a member of the Moral Agents' Club

That kind of holier than thou, my way or the highway attitude is the kind of thing that drives people further away from your stance rather than towards it. Gaming is a leisure activity and hobby for many people but if you want to call them names and think that's going to help inform them then good fucking luck with that.

I agree with you.
But not many people here are saying "I don't care, I just want to play my games." They're saying "These are worthless human beings" and "they need to shut up" and "I fucking hate them" and "they're liars" and "they're faking it" and "they're making us look bad" and "they're not real feminists" and "I may be a man, but I know sexism better than these women."

There's a huge gap there. Huge. At this point, even most of the always-reasonable, always-seeing-both-sides posters here are taking a side. Taking a side isn't "I just want to play games."

My rhetoric isn't very pointed, except people like Cutter, ASeven, Mad Max, etc., that in any kind of politicized thread take the side of people exactly like themselves. For the standard gamer caught in this crossfire? Just admit there may be an issue and things can probably get better and that Anita isn't making accusations but pointing out things that can be improved upon.
It doesn't need to be this bad.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
46. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 16:55 Beamer
 
Cpmartins wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 15:50:
"Yeah, that thunderf00t takedown does paint her in a bad light RE: Hitman. Yes, the game does allow you to do that, but you can kill women in most games, but it doesn't mean that the game is misogynistic. Most of the people you kill in Hitman are male. Also, I can kill women in Skyrim (in most RPGs in fact), but most of those games don't single out women for sexist treatment. The thing is, there's plenty of sexism in games without having to go to those lengths to portray a game as sexist."

That is one. The other is misusing Fallout: New Vegas's reputation system to lie about players not being punished when killing a girl in Freeside.

I haven't seen her Hitman takedown, because contrary to the opinion around here I don't really care what most of these people say.

But, having played a Hitman game and Skyrim, I can say there's a huge difference between them. One has women, which you interact with in many ways, which play many roles, and which factor into the plot. The other has women which you kill. One has men which you interact with, in many ways, which play many roles, and factor into the plot. So does the other.

It's like if we drew a four-square, with the pairs being (Hitman, Skyrim), and (Male, Female.) Both would have (do something in the game other than die) in the Male box, but only Skyrim would have that in the female box.
 
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News Comments > CCP Closing SF Office
7. Re: CCP Closing SF Office Aug 28, 2014, 15:41 Beamer
 
KTR wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 14:43:
San Francisco...known for their affordable rent.
But it is known for its excess of talent, which is what companies want.
Sure, you can open a studio in Cincinnati, OH, but who is going to willingly move there to staff it?
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
24. Re: Op Ed Aug 28, 2014, 15:40 Beamer
 
William Usher wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 13:21:
Beamer wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 10:21:
I'm sorry, it just seems like people not comfortable enough with their own masculinity and place in the world to question how it impacts other people. Rather than question, it's lashing out in ways far worse than what "SJWs" do.

I'm responding to this here because the newer responses are completely off-topic.

Nevertheless, you're directing this statement at people who are angered that gaming culture is now seen and viewed by those in the industry and outside of it as this festering pot of misogyny. People seriously need to look up the definition of that word because it does not mean what they think it means.

Keeping on-topic: A lot of gamers are angry at the so-called SJWs because they misrepresent facts and distort context for an agenda.

For instance, why are they attacking games geared toward males who like fantasy sex and violence? It's like a bunch of men getting angry at women who read romance novels because they distort the reality of how men actually are.

Different games sell to different genders. It would be nice if the groups yelling "misogyny" and "unfairness" all the time at least did their research. More women play social/casual games than men do. More women spend more money on these games than men do (there are market reports, facts, that back this up. Google it.)

It's no surprise that Farmvilles and The Sims games of that ilk are marketed toward females just the same as Gears of War and God of War are marketed toward males: These companies are selling to demographics that make them money.

Dairy corporations don't market milk to farmers.

As far as female representation goes in the more core markets? Of course it's not the same as males. Could it be better? Of course.

However, you'll still find an ample amount games on Steam and elsewhere if you just type in "Female" under the games category for a list of titles that allow you to play as a female across all types of different kinds of games. But what you won't find are any SJWs talking about those games or even supporting or promoting them. Lilly Looking Through? Moon Hunters? Aegis Defenders? Dex? Are these games regularly featured in the tirades against games geared toward 14 - 32 year old males?

Why is that?


So far I only see it as a sick culture for people who are angry to express it on a platform. They have never used that platform to help the companies, female game designers and aspiring creators to get their ideas and games out there. They only attack the other side.

Don't you realize how it's this backlash, rather than the Tropes videos, that makes games seem like a festering pot of misogyny? It isn't the "hey everyone, there's a problem here" it's the "fuck you I'm not listening shut up there is no problem you aren't even a real feminist" that's causing that image. It's the "we won't even attempt to make any changes because we have nothing that needs to change so stop telling us!" that creates the image.

Why do they focus on games geared towards males who like fantasy sex and violence? Well, they don't focus on violence, unless it's sexual violence, and it sometimes is. But this is the focus because that's mostly what games are. The industry is still operating like it thinks everyone is a 13 year old male. It often feels out of place. And the Tropes videos aren't trying to say "EVERY GAME IS BAD, BURN IT!" it's trying to say "look how incredibly prevalent this kind of thing is - it's literally everywhere."

Women are now 48% of gamers. Yet, in most games, they're sexual objects or victims.

And since when is "selling to a demographic that makes money" an excuse for behavior that some see as unjust. Hey, Montasanto makes GMOs because people buy it and it makes money, guess that means it's all ok and deserves zero scrutiny.

The bottom line, though, is that yes, people think that games is a cesspool of misogyny, but it isn't the "SJW"s that have caused this opinion, it's the response to it. And, frankly, gamers have always been thought of as immature male virgins obsessed with impossible women while living in their parents' basement. That isn't a new thing. Things like Tropes were trying to get games to grow beyond that stereotype.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
39. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 15:33 Beamer
 
PropheT wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 15:25:
Jensen wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 02:58:
Ar you talking about Internet Aristocrat and thunderf00t and the millions of views they've gotten from this uproar? (how much did they get from the ads I watched before their videos?)

I'm not even sure what or who that is, so no. All I know is that there seems to be a pretty steady cycle of this where she or someone she seems to be closely associated with routinely uses examples like this to drum up support for their movement while their hands are outstretched looking for the next dollar.

It definitely happens, everyone remembers that the shit with Jade Raymond a few years back was nauseating, but she was doing her job and still is and is an important part of behind the scenes gaming production. Sarkeesian's only contribution are projects explicitly designed to show inequality, and she takes any hate or vitriol that heads her way and uses it as marketing to push a product that relies on it.

She counts on it, the gaming press has gone out of their way to oblige it, and it keeps gaining steam because anyone who disagrees is a misogynist bastard who thinks there's nothing wrong. There's no discussion actually there, no way to improve from that, and guys like Whedon giving her kudos and more press just seems like otherwise smart people suddenly deciding that Ann Coulter is a leading voice on political discourse.

How do you have a discussion on it, though? A woman says "as a woman, that makes me feel lesser." And men immediately say "you're wrong."

Most men don't look for a dialogue about sexism. Frankly, nearly every man fails to understand sexism. We have no frame of reference for it at all, like someone colorblind has no frame of reference for green. So the dialogue doesn't become "alright, why do you feel that way, let us understand and see if we can make things better" it becomes "you're wrong, stop attacking me, let me post this giant imgur link that scattershots 40 different points that discredit you!"

Leigh Alexander posted a Gamasutra commentary on this today that I'm sure will get major backlash because she went as incendiary as possible. She posited that most of this comes from a core group of gamers irate over no longer being the focus of the industry. She may be on to something a bit there. Look at the topics that get people really riled up here - the supposed slights to PC gamers, changes for "kiddies," and this. All of those can be somewhat attributed to gamers that used to be the bread and butter of the industry and now being less of a focus.

Also, Tim Schaeffer came out in support of Tropes Against Women, so yeah, I hope the people here that suddenly found themselves hating The Avengers are prepared to hate Double Fine. He won't be the last to do this, either. I'm sure ASeven will have an imgur link showing what a hypocrite Tim is soon enough.
 
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News Comments > etc.
4. Re: etc. Aug 28, 2014, 14:04 Beamer
 
Creston wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 13:58:
Calling swat on someone for shits and giggles should be thirty years in the federal pen.

Because these swat guys are coming in on a bomb threat, and they are high strung to hell; you make one bad or suspicious move and they'll end you right then and there.

Such lulz. So the asshole who did it, @screwpain, hope you enjoy getting assraped for a large portion of the rest of your life. Miserable piece of shit.

Especially when you consider the SWATted people are typically playing shooters, so the SWAT team is walking into a building where, in some cases, they're hearing gunfire.
 
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News Comments > New Quake Live Ruleset Courts New Players
20. Re: New Quake Live Ruleset Courts New Players Aug 28, 2014, 13:48 Beamer
 
4D-Boxing wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 13:42:
Beamer wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 12:13:
garrywong wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 09:57:
Ok this is stupid. Haven't they considered what this is going to do to the pro scene? Yeah ok, you can play with a "classic" ruleset that doesn't change any of this, but now you are going to have a divided community. Them noobs that don't learn anything because they are playing on ezmode, and the hardcore pro scene.

Usually changes like this are last-ditch efforts to court new users to avoid shutting down. If that's the case, then they don't care about the "pro scene," because they were going to lose the game, anyway.

Prob a knee jerk reaction to how gamers rushed to download the UT4 pre alpha.

With regards to bunny hoping. It only helped when a sniper spent his time in one spot waiting for easy frags. Putting a stamina limit would reduce its use if combined with a sprint button. I would even crank up the base movement speed (love those crazy dm/ffa cod4 speed servers like broadcast k3 one).

p.s. Yes, i know what k3 tried to do with the acronym, not a member

Nah, UT4 hasn't been out long enough for them to identify that and do this.
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
3. Re: Morning Consolidation Aug 28, 2014, 12:56 Beamer
 
PropheT wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 12:35:
Price drop to $350 for the standalone console at the same time, maybe?

Would be brilliant, but I doubt it. They're keeping the bundles a "value."

"Value."
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
20. Re: Op Ed Aug 28, 2014, 12:42 Beamer
 
ASeven wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 11:03:
Beamer wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 10:47:
ASeven wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 10:42:
SJWs making life so much better for Stardock CEO! Because death threats should only be news if it's a woman getting them.

Are you next going to point out that the newspapers are ignoring that black cop that killed that white kid? Or that there's no White History Month? When did you become O'Reilly?

Was this after the UPS incident or sexual harassment incident?


Wow, more intellectual dishonesty from Beamer! What a shock!

I'm sorry but since when were we discussing social ethnic relations? I thought we were talking about "feminism" in gaming, not race issues. But take it to Beamer to divert the talk whenever he gets beat up in a discussion. So typical of you.

Here's your SJW pals comparing gamers to ISIS. Or JonTron getting abuse from SJWs just for speaking out the obvious.

In fact, I'll correct myself: it's only news if it involves a "feminist" woman. Because when real feminists speak out against this SJW charade it's not news anymore.

Why is it that you think these morons speak for everyone?
You get angry when people say that the death threats and rape threats speak for all men.

So why are you so happy assuming that fringe morons are the norm?


My real question is - why do you never use your words? Why do you repeatedly link to walls of text and jumbled images? Can you please lay out your own argument? I don't think you understand how scattershot this comes across. You rant about SJWs here and Journalism there.

And you've spent SIGNIFICANTLY more effort complaining about journalism here than you did when Gamespot admitted to changing ratings.

You keep linking to that article, which you think only describes me, but who do you think she means here:
Here’s the sad, dumb truth. Even in 2014, there had to be a woman getting used this way, in order to bring any of this corruption to light. This woman had to have sex, not just quietly exchange money for press like everyone else in the industry. This swarm of idiot misogynists had to appear, to provide negative attention to the issue and blow it up.
Who's the main person I've seen providing negative attention? Endless, obsessive negative attention.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
34. Re: Evening Interviews Aug 28, 2014, 12:37 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 11:11:
Beamer wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 10:25:
You've never been one to jump to conclusions so quickly so it's saddening to see you do it here. Please think a bit more rationally rather than take some poorly made imgur as evidence. And to everyone saying "I'm sick of women bitching about being treated this way," I think Jon Stewart said it best about Ferguson, "yeah, if you're sick of hearing about it, imagine living it."

No problem jumping to assumptions over dubious twitter account threats but suddenly has a problem with people disputing it. Your deflection agenda here is clear, every single time anything comes up you have some defense or rationalization.

What conclusions did anyone jump to?
That it happened?

No one has called for this guy's head, because no one knows who he is. No one is extrapolating this out and assuming this is what every male gamer does.
 
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News Comments > etc.
2. Re: etc. Aug 28, 2014, 12:15 Beamer
 
Slick wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 11:51:
AHAHAHA

"counter-terrorists win"

best comment ever

Did you watch the video?
SWAT: Why are you laughing. Is this funny to you?
Guy: I'm not laughing!
Game: Terrorists Win


Great timing.
 
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News Comments > Sims 4 Specs (and Pancakes)
14. Re: Sims 4 Specs (and Pancakes) Aug 28, 2014, 12:14 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 00:27:
no 64bit support in the engine.. in the year 2014
DX9 only, in the year 2014
Athlon X4 or I5 "recommended" (Check what performance an Athlon X4 has, that is SUBSTANTIALLY below any modern CPU) in the year 2014 ...

So don't buy this crap. It's nothing but an outdated rehash of Sims 3 with tons of stripped features ;(

Think for a second about who plays The Sims and what kind of machines they're playing it on.
 
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News Comments > New Quake Live Ruleset Courts New Players
13. Re: New Quake Live Ruleset Courts New Players Aug 28, 2014, 12:13 Beamer
 
garrywong wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 09:57:
Ok this is stupid. Haven't they considered what this is going to do to the pro scene? Yeah ok, you can play with a "classic" ruleset that doesn't change any of this, but now you are going to have a divided community. Them noobs that don't learn anything because they are playing on ezmode, and the hardcore pro scene.

Usually changes like this are last-ditch efforts to court new users to avoid shutting down. If that's the case, then they don't care about the "pro scene," because they were going to lose the game, anyway.
 
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