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News Comments > Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight
62. Re: Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight Dec 30, 2014, 17:20 Beamer
 
Flatline wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 16:58:
Beamer wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 15:59:
Flatline wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 14:57:
harlock wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 14:25:
see - and heres the thing about it: there are tons of movies with extremely questionable and disturbing narratives/graphics/portrayals... but for some reason games are different? why is that? "oh its interactive!" what? its no different than a movie, except you are IN it, rather than just watching it - the original creation of the world and setting and characters is the exact same principal

i mean, if you cant handle it - fine, dont play it, dont watch it, etc... but dont get up on a high horse about how noble and pure and morally superior you are, imagining your holier than thou perspective gives you free reign to dictate what others should be doing with their time... because it doesnt

QFT

Didn't we already go through this with Jack Thompson?

Lord I remember the "game" where you were Oswald in Dallas and the program scored you based on how close to history you could get putting bullets through Kennedy's head.

If the game is in bad taste, don't play it. Period. End of story. Either that or we need to get off our high horses and admit that we play murder simulators and that Call of Duty desensitizes us to violence just as much as this game does.


Oh come on. Bringing up Jack Thompson?

For godssake he tried to pass laws that banned certain games. Show me a single person in this thread, just one, saying they shouldn't be allowed to make this game.

You guys get on some pulpit about freedom and mentioning Jack Thompson but no one is bringing up arguments even slightly similar to his.

As for movies, yes, there are movies that have disturbing narratives. But usually they try to say something. Natural Born Killers was one of the ones most condemned but it certainly had a greater purpose than "kill a lot of things." Most movies that haven't end up being weird cult things that don't end up in theaters - see Cannibal Holocaust and the Guinea Pig series.

But movies and games aren't overly comparable, because we're decades past when people really tried to ban movies. We're still in the space where certain parts of the media loves vilifying games. This game will just make that worse. Should the developers be free to make it? Of course. And they are. But this will just come back to haunt people, and more likely than not be a shoddy game that no one really enjoys.

Again, though, no one is saying there should be laws preventing this game from being made and sold.

Dude, there are at least half a dozen posts in this thread where people are saying this "crosses the line" or "pushes the boundary" or is "going too far".

No, nobody is saying "CENSOR ALL THE THINGS" verbatim but they're using language that certain things like this game shouldn't be allowed. It's disingenuous to pretend that it isn't a passive-aggressive call for censorship.

But nearly all of those are also saying that they should be allowed to make it, but it's stupid to make.

It isn't a call for censorship, it's a call for people to be smarter about what they choose to put in the marketplace. There's a huge difference between forcing someone not to do something and asking they not do it.
 
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News Comments > Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight
55. Re: Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight Dec 30, 2014, 16:23 Beamer
 
dubfanatic wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 16:13:
NKD wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 11:58:
I don't understand the controversy. We've been murdering pixel people in games for a lot of years. Why is a game that doesn't justify it somehow more objectionable than one that candy coats it and tells you you're the good guy for doing it?

Because moral crusaders believe people are inherently weak and will internalize the lessons of anything they read, listen to or play. And this time, the moral crusaders are on the far-left, and leftists already largely believe that other humans are weak, so it's a natural fit.

And I've yet to see a single person say this will cause a normal human being to go on a killing spree.
 
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News Comments > Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight
50. Re: Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight Dec 30, 2014, 15:59 Beamer
 
Flatline wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 14:57:
harlock wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 14:25:
see - and heres the thing about it: there are tons of movies with extremely questionable and disturbing narratives/graphics/portrayals... but for some reason games are different? why is that? "oh its interactive!" what? its no different than a movie, except you are IN it, rather than just watching it - the original creation of the world and setting and characters is the exact same principal

i mean, if you cant handle it - fine, dont play it, dont watch it, etc... but dont get up on a high horse about how noble and pure and morally superior you are, imagining your holier than thou perspective gives you free reign to dictate what others should be doing with their time... because it doesnt

QFT

Didn't we already go through this with Jack Thompson?

Lord I remember the "game" where you were Oswald in Dallas and the program scored you based on how close to history you could get putting bullets through Kennedy's head.

If the game is in bad taste, don't play it. Period. End of story. Either that or we need to get off our high horses and admit that we play murder simulators and that Call of Duty desensitizes us to violence just as much as this game does.


Oh come on. Bringing up Jack Thompson?

For godssake he tried to pass laws that banned certain games. Show me a single person in this thread, just one, saying they shouldn't be allowed to make this game.

You guys get on some pulpit about freedom and mentioning Jack Thompson but no one is bringing up arguments even slightly similar to his.

As for movies, yes, there are movies that have disturbing narratives. But usually they try to say something. Natural Born Killers was one of the ones most condemned but it certainly had a greater purpose than "kill a lot of things." Most movies that haven't end up being weird cult things that don't end up in theaters - see Cannibal Holocaust and the Guinea Pig series.

But movies and games aren't overly comparable, because we're decades past when people really tried to ban movies. We're still in the space where certain parts of the media loves vilifying games. This game will just make that worse. Should the developers be free to make it? Of course. And they are. But this will just come back to haunt people, and more likely than not be a shoddy game that no one really enjoys.

Again, though, no one is saying there should be laws preventing this game from being made and sold.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
14. Re: Out of the Blue Dec 30, 2014, 14:04 Beamer
 
The roadster is a sports car based on the Lotus Elise. No one is ever really driving the Lotus Elise 400 miles in one sitting, nor are they driving it in freezing cold weather. It isn't made for that. It isn't the most comfortable ride, and the heating and air conditioning aren't the most powerful.

It's a second car. A toy car. Not a primary driver.

The Tesla S is a bigger issue, with it actually being a very comfortable driver, but only getting 310 miles at the high end. Still, at the price, it's a car for a certain person. That person most likely has another car in the family and uses that car for longer trips.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
2. Re: Morning Metaverse Dec 30, 2014, 12:52 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 11:54:
Well stop fucking using social media than and problem solved. Honestly, the way people go on about this shit when there's an such an obvious solution. Or start a fucking competing service that respects people's privacy in that case. If it's such a big deal you should be a billionaire over night.

Ello.

And it's pointless and boring with no one on it and nothing to do.
 
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News Comments > Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight
11. Re: Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight Dec 30, 2014, 11:34 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 11:26:
nin wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 09:38:
Hatred fills your whole body. You’re sick and tired of humanity’s hearing about worthless existence this game.


I think you mean Hatred fills your whole body. You're sick and tired about SJW's and authoritarians telling you what you can or can't play.

Because so many people were saying you can't play Hatred.

Saying it's bad and you shouldn't isn't the same as saying it's evil and you shouldn't be allowed.
 
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
22. Re: Evening Tech Bits Dec 30, 2014, 11:24 Beamer
 
I disagree that cars aren't as well built. They're built to survive crashes. The issues they usually end up having now are electronic/computer ones on systems older cars didn't even have.

Other things? You can either pay much more and get metal parts, or pay less and get plastic parts. People opt to pay less. People get plastic parts. It is somewhat self fulfilling. We all hate airlines that cram us in and charge for everything, but when people go to book flights they usually sort by price then pick the ones with the time they want. If an airline started being "all inclusive," it would cost more and no one would fly it.
 
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News Comments > Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight
9. Re: Hatred Earns Steam Greenlight Dec 30, 2014, 11:20 Beamer
 
ldonyo wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 10:51:
HorrorScope wrote on Dec 30, 2014, 10:48:
Bunch O Pussies. It's a game about killing... sounds fresh.

Manhunt and Postal were sort of fresh, but that was over a decade ago. This is just another mass murdering game following in their footsteps.

Postal was kind of fun because it was novel and because you were killing things that looked more like bowling pins than people.

Manhunt I hated. No huge surprise, it was a pure stealth game. I've repeatedly mentioned how little patience I have with those.
 
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News Comments > Hardware Reviews
4. Re: Hardware Reviews Dec 29, 2014, 19:24 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 18:58:
Sennheiser Sennheiser Sennheiser.

If you just want phones, HD 280 is $100. Their headsets are a lot more expensive, but with Sennheiser you get what you pay for.

I prefer Grado to Sennheiser.
Or used to. It's been almost a decade since I've compared, and that's a lot of time in headphones. Any purchases I've done in that decade have either had a microphone or been sound cancelling. I haven't purchased dedicated non-gaming non-SC headsets since my Grados in about 2005.

 
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News Comments > Hardware Reviews
2. Re: Hardware Reviews Dec 29, 2014, 17:33 Beamer
 
I just picked up the Razer BlackShark, which is extremely ugly but gets good reviews.

I also picked up a Turtle Beach Ear Force XP510, which I'll just use for the Xbox. I've heard good things about using it for online play, so we'll see how it goes.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
15. Re: Morning Metaverse Dec 29, 2014, 17:22 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 17:15:
Beamer wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 15:03:
jdreyer wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 14:39:
'The Interview' Rakes in $15M in Downloads.

Cost them $100M to make though.

And online distributors take 30%, theaters would have taken less than that opening weekend.

I thought I read that theaters get 50%.

Here's one source.. The examples used in this one say it varies and there's an agreed upon operating expense, but above the operating expense it's 95% for two weeks, 90% for one week then 85% for a final week, or coming out to 70%/60%/50% across the showing.

And this one shows what I usually understand.About 80% the first week, then slides to about 80% to the theater in final weeks.
 
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News Comments > New Steam Concurrent User Record
8. Re: RE: Follow up Dec 29, 2014, 16:10 Beamer
 
BitWraith wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 16:02:
BitWraith wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 16:01:
Beamer wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 13:39:
garrywong wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 13:35:
UConnBBall wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 12:45:
I am still shocked that ALL OF STEAM is equal to one of League of Legends.


I am still shocked that SOME PEOPLE don't know what the word "concurrent" means.

Or maybe he's comparing Apples to Apples.

In January 2014, LoL had 7.5 million concurrent users.
In December 2014, it had 11.4 million concurrent viewers of Season 4 Championships.

So, yeah, on the basis of concurrent users, all of Steam equals LoL.

There are somewhere around 20 millions steam users in one form or another.

Strike that, in 2013 Gaben said there were 65 millions users on Steam.

And in January 2014 League of Legends said there were 67 million users on League of Legends each month.

Not sure what you're fighting here. League of Legends and Steam are about the same size. I've never played LoL, I don't care for MOBAs or MMOs, but I'm alright admitting that LoL is pretty damn large.
 
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News Comments > Morning Metaverse
7. Re: Morning Metaverse Dec 29, 2014, 15:03 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 14:39:
'The Interview' Rakes in $15M in Downloads.

Cost them $100M to make though.

And online distributors take 30%, theaters would have taken less than that opening weekend.
 
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News Comments > New Steam Concurrent User Record
5. Re: RE: Follow up Dec 29, 2014, 13:39 Beamer
 
garrywong wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 13:35:
UConnBBall wrote on Dec 29, 2014, 12:45:
I am still shocked that ALL OF STEAM is equal to one of League of Legends.


I am still shocked that SOME PEOPLE don't know what the word "concurrent" means.

Or maybe he's comparing Apples to Apples.

In January 2014, LoL had 7.5 million concurrent users.
In December 2014, it had 11.4 million concurrent viewers of Season 4 Championships.

So, yeah, on the basis of concurrent users, all of Steam equals LoL.
 
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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
9. Re: Sunday Metaverse Dec 29, 2014, 12:13 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Dec 28, 2014, 16:37:
Leave it to Ars to turn into a clickbait article. In the context NK said it they meant he was foolish, it wasn't racial. Besides, last time I checked Obama was half-white anyway.


Why is it that no one ever mentions Obama being half-white except for when trying to say something isn't racist due to it?

Obama is fairly dark skinned. His life experiences were almost definitely more those of a black man than a white man.
 
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News Comments > Saturday Consolidation
6. Re: Saturday Consolidation Dec 27, 2014, 18:04 Beamer
 
Kosumo wrote on Dec 27, 2014, 16:45:
Lol Parker, he has made millions and millions from this latest Mega platform - when he was recently in court, it was shown he had made something like over 1 million a week since the FBI closed down his megaupload.

May not be as good as he'd hoped, but the fact is that he can make money.

But thats ok, call him fat and dumb and running a retarded service, I'm sure it hurts him heaps.

Thats right Cutter, you go get them bad hackers and make an example of them. What do you want to do to them? Hanging, lynching or drawn and quatered? Or now about making them clean all the toilets at Microsoft Xbox headquaters and Sony Playstation headquaters for 15 years because now dear someone show up vonrablitys (errors) in their networks that can take them down. It's not thier fault that their networks can be hacked, it's the hackers fault totally for doing it.

Btw Lizard Squad sound like scum which makes me think they have been infortated (gotten into) like the FBI did to lolsec (turned a person on the inside, then got him to get others to do crimes to catch them. i.e. set them up, althought they where hackers to start with) Very scummy, like what I'd expect form the US goverment.

Can someone decipher this for me? Was he defending the hackers or no?
 
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News Comments > Boxing Day Legal Briefs
16. Re: Boxing Day Legal Briefs Dec 26, 2014, 23:09 Beamer
 
harlock wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 19:33:
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Beamer wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 19:02:
harlock wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 18:14:
Julio wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 16:33:
Cutter wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 16:18:
Polygon's review of the film called it "gross, racist, and most of the time... not even funny."

Gee, the SJWs at Shittygon lambaste the film? Shocker!

Given North Korea doesn't approve of the movie, it's a clear given that the SJWs don't. That must mean it's pretty good!

so which kind of authoritarian thought control is better? foreign or domesticated?

How is saying that something is gross and not very funny "thought control?"
If them criticizing the movie is thought control, isn't your criticizing their review also thought control?

Are we in Inception?

you'll never get it - you can go ahead and stop asking questions as if you are still capable of logic or rational thought

Well, I mean one of us is confused and overreacting, not sure it's me...
 
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News Comments > Boxing Day Legal Briefs
13. Re: Boxing Day Legal Briefs Dec 26, 2014, 19:02 Beamer
 
harlock wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 18:14:
Julio wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 16:33:
Cutter wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 16:18:
Polygon's review of the film called it "gross, racist, and most of the time... not even funny."

Gee, the SJWs at Shittygon lambaste the film? Shocker!

Given North Korea doesn't approve of the movie, it's a clear given that the SJWs don't. That must mean it's pretty good!

so which kind of authoritarian thought control is better? foreign or domesticated?

How is saying that something is gross and not very funny "thought control?"
If them criticizing the movie is thought control, isn't your criticizing their review also thought control?

Are we in Inception?
 
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News Comments > Christmas Consolidation
11. Re: Christmas Consolidation Dec 26, 2014, 12:03 Beamer
 
TheEmissary wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 12:01:
Krovven wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 10:54:
TheEmissary wrote on Dec 26, 2014, 10:24:
I wonder how MS and Sony are going to make this right for people. The outages kind of ruined the gift experience for people getting those systems or games. Its going to leave a bitter taste and possibly some screaming kids. Sigh, why do people get off on DDOS?

They don't owe anyone anything. Douchebags that think they are owed something obviously don't comprehend that there is only so much companies can do to defend against DDoS attacks. You want to point a finger? Point it at the low life little shits that deserve a severe beating for pressing a button and then act like they are doing the world of favor.


They need to be more forthcoming with what is going on. The networks are still down to the point where you can't even play the games properly. I am not expecting free DLC or a game out of this but I want to see an actual acknowledgement of the problems and how they plan to address it in the future. As of right it feels like they are burying their head in the sand and hoping the problems go away and frankly that is unacceptable.

Over capacity you can address. Ddos not so much. Building enough capacity to avoid that once a year ddos makes little sense.
 
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News Comments > Christmas Legal Briefs
3. Re: Christmas Legal Briefs Dec 26, 2014, 09:21 Beamer
 
How is this different than Gmail?  
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