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40. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 16:01 Beamer
 
TheEmissary wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:30:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:25:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:15:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:11:
What lie, specifically, are you pointing to?
Don't be ASeven and say something without a link and a quote so people have an idea of what you're talking about.
Didn't you read the articles? If you did, then you'd already know that the whole "gamers are misogynists, etc, etc, etc," is a lie. So was the "there is no collusion" bit either. After all I've already posted that nice little plagiarism picture for you, showing that the articles all contain 35-45% non-original content.

Dude, have you followed #gamergate at all? The misogyny is positively out of control.
And do you understand what an opinion is?

Lastly, here's a nice letter to Intel from the lead developer of Skyrim. Notice how he points out that people like you aren't the audience for Gamasutra, anyway.

Gamaustra may not be a consumer-oriented site but it still a public facing one. Anything said on there is going to attract attention and could still have an effect on the sponsors. The articles get reposted and followed on plenty of aggregate sites so its reach is a bit larger than just Devs.

That was never my point.
My point is people are cheering them getting taken down a notch over ethical violations, but what ethical violations. Even if they are found to be close to developers, shouldn't they be, when developers are the audience?
 
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49. Re: Ships Ahoy - Watch Dogs; First Reviews Oct 2, 2014, 15:40 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 15:06:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 12:21:

I didn't say "anytime soon."

But the longer it goes, the more you need to consider other ways they could have spent that $2 billion (which, honestly, is less of a concern with Facebook, which has plenty of billions to spend) as well as the time value of money.

With each passing year, that number goes up. And up. And up.

Do you guys really think that Facebook will end up breaking even on this one. How many pairs need to be sold (25 million, if they make $100 profit per pair, which seems high) or how many apps/in-app purchases need to be sold?


No I don't think they will break even, but that is not how I define the success of VR To me Facebook is just a necessary evil in this. Without big corporations pushing VR ahead it would always remain a tiny market.

Maybe they will take licensing fees for the OR SDK and platform integration? After all Facebook doesn't just get (awesome) VR goggles out of this, but an entire VR entertainment platform complete with API and SDK. The goggles are just a tool....

In todays economic world, money has very little "time value" You actually lose money if you don't spend it, currently at least.

Time value is still extremely important.
It's more opportunity cost that is less important, because Facebook has enough cash that spending $2.5 billion on this isn't likely to prevent them from spending it on another project.
 
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28. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 13:28 Beamer
 
Seriously, to all of you constantly saying this is about journalist ethics, show me three ethical violations by Gamasutra.

I haven't seen one. The guy below me thinks that having an opinion he disagrees with is an ethical violation. That's very funny. Others have repeatedly said the issues are with previews and with reviews, which Gamasutra avoids. Others say the issue is with how close game magazines are to developers, but Gamasutra is a trade magazine, not a consumer magazine, so its audience is solely developers.

So, please, if this is about ethics and not having opinions you disagree with, show me the ethical violations that make you so happy to have targeted Gamasutra.
 
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27. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 13:25 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:15:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:11:
What lie, specifically, are you pointing to?
Don't be ASeven and say something without a link and a quote so people have an idea of what you're talking about.
Didn't you read the articles? If you did, then you'd already know that the whole "gamers are misogynists, etc, etc, etc," is a lie. So was the "there is no collusion" bit either. After all I've already posted that nice little plagiarism picture for you, showing that the articles all contain 35-45% non-original content.

Dude, have you followed #gamergate at all? The misogyny is positively out of control.
And do you understand what an opinion is?

Lastly, here's a nice letter to Intel from the lead developer of Skyrim. Notice how he points out that people like you aren't the audience for Gamasutra, anyway.
 
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24. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 13:11 Beamer
 
TheEmissary wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:10:
Both sides in this fight are ridiculous for taking it this far and being down right hostile to each other rather than actually talking about the issues. I would imagine there are legitimate issues with portrayal of women and ethics in Games Media/Enthusiast press but we aren't ever going to get a real forum for that.

The Op-Ed talking points could be said without vilifying an entire demographic of people.

There are enormous issues with both. I don't see many people denying that there are issues with gaming press, though.
 
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23. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 13:11 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 13:03:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 12:58:
But again, there's no fucking way this is about journalist ethics if it targeted Gamasutra, which has not violated any journalist ethics.
Lying isn't a violation of journalistic ethics?

What lie, specifically, are you pointing to?
Don't be ASeven and say something without a link and a quote so people have an idea of what you're talking about.
 
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20. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 12:58 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 12:55:
garrywong wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 12:11:
And why such a huge contrast to how the same sites reacted to dorritosgate, which was basically the exact same thing?
People had enough, simple as that. This has been a long time coming and this is what it's blown up into. FYI reddit had minimal influence on this infinity-chan and jayd3fox for running the campaign are the primary source on this. It's funny that jayd3fox originally did a few tongue-in-cheek bits until she got doxxed by the anti-gg side. And it seemed to snowball from there. Strange how neutral people like jon tron and TB who were neutral are now pro-gg after being accused of being "misogynist man babies and shitlords."

And I find the "but this is censorship" comments laughable. Gee, and advertiser realizes that someone is being hostile to their income, investigates, finds that they are being hostile to those they get income from and pulls ads is "censorship" elofuckingel.

You're right, that absolutely isn't censoring by Intel.
What is a bit more closely related is that people disliked an editorial from Gamasutra so they went after advertisers to try to make sure Gamasutra never publishes an editorial they do not like.

It isn't exactly censorship, but considering it's coming from a group endlessly whining about how editorials like Gamasutra's are trying to censor their games (which is not true), it's at least funny.

But again, there's no fucking way this is about journalist ethics if it targeted Gamasutra, which has not violated any journalist ethics.
 
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18. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 12:41 Beamer
 
ASeven wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 12:22:
Some people here will preach about misogyny and that gamergate isn't working and isn't about ethics.

Intel apparently doesn't agree with these white male oppressed misologists and damn good for Intel.

What ethics did Gamasutra, a site that is aimed at professionals, not consumers, violate? It published an opinion piece you did not agree with. It also published several opinion pieces explaining why it felt the first was incorrect.

It does not publish reviews.
It does not publish previews.
It does not tell consumers what to buy, because it is not aimed at consumers.
It does not tell consumers what is good, because it is not aimed at consumers.
You can't argue that it's too close to developers, because many of its articles are written by developers because it's audience is developers (e.g., it used to be Game Developer Magazine.)

So great, you got Gamasutra "censored," but what ethics do you feel Gamasutra violated, or is publishing a jerky op-ed that you don't agree with an ethical violation?
I really don't see how it's just about journalist ethics when the only site thus far impacted is one that wrote an op-ed piece you accuse of being too SJWish, yet has done nothing ethically grey area, let alone clearly wrong.

This comment was edited on Oct 2, 2014, 12:47.
 
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47. Re: Ships Ahoy - Watch Dogs; First Reviews Oct 2, 2014, 12:21 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 11:38:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 11:13:
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 10:41:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 10:10:
Quboid wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 09:32:
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 05:40:
Quboid wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 12:32:
ELITE wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 10:31:
Click Bait - need some hits - get negative - that's how we do it these days...

So is any critical editorial is click-bait? Or does this only apply to editorials that you disagree with?

Everything on Polygon is unsubstantiated clickbait... a proper article would have asked "Does VR have a future?" With both sides of the argument given equal air time. What Polygon does here is agenda driven Op-ED drivel. Op-ED does give you the right to voice opinions I guess, but Polygon is a bullshit factory, so it might just as well be in their main news feed. Fits right in

It's an opinion piece, it is only supposed to be this author's opinion. Giving each side equal air time is false balance if he doesn't think it's a 50:50 issue and he evidently doesn't.

Click-bait exists but it is not an opinion you don't like, nor is it an article you didn't bother to read. Further more, if this genuinely was click-bait and you're taking a stand against it, you should not even be here. By commenting you are sending others to their site and by viewing these comments, you're telling Blue that click-bait is what we want and what gets him advertising revenue - and if you're so concerned about click-bait, you should be concerned that Blue is falling foul of this supposed disease too.

Thank you.
If one thing has come from gamergate, it's realizing how little most people understand the media. Between this and all the demands for journalism degrees...

But I don't have to understand the media, the media exists to serve the people, not the other way around. And Polygon is a prime example of what happens when media doesn't serve people, but ad payment click-rates. Otherwise even an OP-ED piece would not have a bullshit headline like that, quoting Pachter of all people. You might as well predict the future by reading tea leafs.

Ps.: And blues gets money for actual page-views, not for click through.

It's a guy's opinion, and plenty of people on this board share the same opinion. Why isn't he allowed to publish his opinion? And how is it a bullshit headline? He thinks it's bound to fail.

And what's the goalpost for failure? Facebook paid $2 billion for it, and is investing what has to be several hundred million more. Do you think that it will generate $2.5 billion in profit? Not revenue, but profit? This is ignoring even the opportunity cost of that investment and the time value of money.

So, from an investment point of view, it needs to generate at least $2.5 billion in profit to not be a failure. I am not at all convinced that's very likely.

I highly doubt Facebook wants to make 2.5b profit with this anytime soon. They create and generate their own longterm market. A new market. Whether profits can be made there or not remains to be seen, but the market wasn't there 5 years ago. Now a new market spawned, and for large corporations, a new market where it costs 2.5b to access but generates 200m per year is absolutely worth it. Money not invested is money you waste. And a market that COULD grow exponentially with barely any competition is extremely lucrative to a company.

And the article says "why... VR.. is bound to fail" and VR is not bound to fail. Any actual presence enabling VR that comes out of this is a huge success... something NOBODY had ever done before the OR. And if the first generation OR isn't total shit, it will completely change how games can be experienced.

So what if it costs 2.5b+ to make proper VR happen... without Facebook boosting this we'd not have the outlook on proper VR. Is it to you not a success that we get VR *at all* ? If Facebook hadn't thrown their weight behind OR, would others have started making competing VR goggles? And without competition, would there ever have been a chance of it becoming mainstream to begin with?

Even if this is just a side-project of Facebook, to me as a Gamer VR is a success because VR will finally EXIST. Before the OR, we had no VR at all. Only fake in your face projections. And pseudo 3d in movies.

I didn't say "anytime soon."

But the longer it goes, the more you need to consider other ways they could have spent that $2 billion (which, honestly, is less of a concern with Facebook, which has plenty of billions to spend) as well as the time value of money.

With each passing year, that number goes up. And up. And up.

Do you guys really think that Facebook will end up breaking even on this one. How many pairs need to be sold (25 million, if they make $100 profit per pair, which seems high) or how many apps/in-app purchases need to be sold?

 
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43. Re: Ships Ahoy - Watch Dogs; First Reviews Oct 2, 2014, 11:13 Beamer
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 10:41:
Beamer wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 10:10:
Quboid wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 09:32:
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 05:40:
Quboid wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 12:32:
ELITE wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 10:31:
Click Bait - need some hits - get negative - that's how we do it these days...

So is any critical editorial is click-bait? Or does this only apply to editorials that you disagree with?

Everything on Polygon is unsubstantiated clickbait... a proper article would have asked "Does VR have a future?" With both sides of the argument given equal air time. What Polygon does here is agenda driven Op-ED drivel. Op-ED does give you the right to voice opinions I guess, but Polygon is a bullshit factory, so it might just as well be in their main news feed. Fits right in

It's an opinion piece, it is only supposed to be this author's opinion. Giving each side equal air time is false balance if he doesn't think it's a 50:50 issue and he evidently doesn't.

Click-bait exists but it is not an opinion you don't like, nor is it an article you didn't bother to read. Further more, if this genuinely was click-bait and you're taking a stand against it, you should not even be here. By commenting you are sending others to their site and by viewing these comments, you're telling Blue that click-bait is what we want and what gets him advertising revenue - and if you're so concerned about click-bait, you should be concerned that Blue is falling foul of this supposed disease too.

Thank you.
If one thing has come from gamergate, it's realizing how little most people understand the media. Between this and all the demands for journalism degrees...

But I don't have to understand the media, the media exists to serve the people, not the other way around. And Polygon is a prime example of what happens when media doesn't serve people, but ad payment click-rates. Otherwise even an OP-ED piece would not have a bullshit headline like that, quoting Pachter of all people. You might as well predict the future by reading tea leafs.

Ps.: And blues gets money for actual page-views, not for click through.

It's a guy's opinion, and plenty of people on this board share the same opinion. Why isn't he allowed to publish his opinion? And how is it a bullshit headline? He thinks it's bound to fail.

And what's the goalpost for failure? Facebook paid $2 billion for it, and is investing what has to be several hundred million more. Do you think that it will generate $2.5 billion in profit? Not revenue, but profit? This is ignoring even the opportunity cost of that investment and the time value of money.

So, from an investment point of view, it needs to generate at least $2.5 billion in profit to not be a failure. I am not at all convinced that's very likely.
 
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41. Re: Ships Ahoy - Watch Dogs; First Reviews Oct 2, 2014, 10:10 Beamer
 
Quboid wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 09:32:
eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 05:40:
Quboid wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 12:32:
ELITE wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 10:31:
Click Bait - need some hits - get negative - that's how we do it these days...

So is any critical editorial is click-bait? Or does this only apply to editorials that you disagree with?

Everything on Polygon is unsubstantiated clickbait... a proper article would have asked "Does VR have a future?" With both sides of the argument given equal air time. What Polygon does here is agenda driven Op-ED drivel. Op-ED does give you the right to voice opinions I guess, but Polygon is a bullshit factory, so it might just as well be in their main news feed. Fits right in

It's an opinion piece, it is only supposed to be this author's opinion. Giving each side equal air time is false balance if he doesn't think it's a 50:50 issue and he evidently doesn't.

Click-bait exists but it is not an opinion you don't like, nor is it an article you didn't bother to read. Further more, if this genuinely was click-bait and you're taking a stand against it, you should not even be here. By commenting you are sending others to their site and by viewing these comments, you're telling Blue that click-bait is what we want and what gets him advertising revenue - and if you're so concerned about click-bait, you should be concerned that Blue is falling foul of this supposed disease too.

Thank you.
If one thing has come from gamergate, it's realizing how little most people understand the media. Between this and all the demands for journalism degrees...
 
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23. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 2, 2014, 00:35 Beamer
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Oct 2, 2014, 00:30:
Cutter wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 20:13:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 15:35:
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 15:22:
There is no professional requirement for a credentialed journalist to have a degree in journalism. This should be pretty common knowledge to anyone past the age of 14.

Sure there's no professional requirement, good luck getting hired on at any publication without one though.

SMA has delusions of grandeur that he's right about everything and everyone else is wrong. Nevermind he doesn't understand the difference between and a games reviewer and an actual, real journalist, he'll never let the facts get in the way of his idiotic rants. He'd be laughable if he wasn't so pathetic.

Dude, ever since I graduated high school over a decade ago, I've posted here on average about twice a month, generally making very short posts which fade into the background. You on the other hand have spent a good chunk of your adult life staking out a claim for yourself as the BluesNews resident crank. The fact that you are accusing me of delusions of grandeur and always claiming to be right, when in fact I barely even post here, merely reinforces my thesis that something has gone seriously wrong when it comes to Halsy's mental state.

It's fun to search both of your histories for "removed." He averages over one per month.
 
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22. Re: etc. Oct 2, 2014, 00:32 Beamer
 


Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 18:50:
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 18:17:
You realize what you quoted is my point, not something I sourced.
The second source, which you vapidly complain is a survey, is reporting that under 40% of journalists surveyed had journalism degrees, so yes, a survey reporting the findings of a survey makes perfect sense.
Actually I trimmed it down so it wouldn't clutter the thread. You realize that said survey provides no empirical data right? That's a survey with no information on methodology or breakdown.

The first source is independent research which, again, would not have a source because it is it's own source. Someone taking the list of Pulitzer Prize winners and digging into their educational background isn't something that gets sourced. The author is the Washington Post journalist who broke the Hoover/FBI political spying story, so she likely knows a few things about journalism. As former head of a college journalism program, she probably also knows something about journalism education.

Do you even understand how sourcing works?
The first source is indeed independent research, or it appears to be. But again, it offers no data. In other words, there no source of how they conducted it, weighting, time frame, period, quality of substantive works, etc.

And apparently I've got a better idea of how sourcing works then you do. You're using a source, which has no sources in order to back up their information. In other words, your statement is made on their authoritative statements, which have no data.

The survey mentions its methodology just fine, and prove the first source wrong, then. Should be easy if it's made up.

You know nothing about sources. You provided no data of your own. And your knowledge of journalism showed you can't even Google before saying something. How much can your care if your can't be bothered to google to see if you aren't horrifically wrong before posting a judgment?
 
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20. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 2, 2014, 00:29 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 20:13:
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 15:35:
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 15:22:
There is no professional requirement for a credentialed journalist to have a degree in journalism. This should be pretty common knowledge to anyone past the age of 14.

Sure there's no professional requirement, good luck getting hired on at any publication without one though.

SMA has delusions of grandeur that he's right about everything and everyone else is wrong. Nevermind he doesn't understand the difference between and a games reviewer and an actual, real journalist, he'll never let the facts get in the way of his idiotic rants. He'd be laughable if he wasn't so pathetic.

Cutter: Self declared almost always positive and least self aware person alive.
 
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6. Re: Evening Metaverse Oct 1, 2014, 20:21 Beamer
 
Parallax Abstraction wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 20:17:
It stands for Queer or Questioning depending on who you ask. It's supposed to represent people who are still determining their orientation as I understand it. I work for an organisation that represents post-secondary unions so I've heard a lot about it. Additionally, there is I which stands for Intersex and 2S which stands for "two spirited", which I haven't gotten a concrete explanation on but apparently it has something to do with Native culture. It can become a very long acronym.

QUILTBAG
 
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4. Re: Evening Metaverse Oct 1, 2014, 20:17 Beamer
 
Slick wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 20:12:
what the hell is "Q"? Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans.... Queen?

R, not N.

edit - and if you're wondering the difference, "queer" often refers to undefined or questioning. An L, G, B and T are all more specific.
 
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5. Re: Evening Tech Bits Oct 1, 2014, 20:16 Beamer
 
nin wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 20:05:
mag wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 19:48:
[VG]Reagle wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 19:35:
What the f$#k happened to Windows 9? I guess Microsux doesnt know about the even number curse?

Apparently the whole decision was as simple as the fact that there are a lot of programs that look for something as stupid as

// Checks if Windows 95 or Windows 98
if (windowsVersion starts with 9){
do stuff
}

If that's true (and I have no reason to doubt you), that's a fucking riot!

It's a rumor that came from someone claiming to work for Microsoft on Reddit, which is slightly sketchy, and he says it was the internal rumor, and let me say that when working at a company that large internal rumors are often total fabrications.

But then there's this:
Over 4000 hits
 
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36. Re: Op Ed Oct 1, 2014, 19:45 Beamer
 
harlock wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 19:16:
one retarded polygon article deserves another:

Kissing vs. killing: How Shadow of Mordor fails at explaining the difference

just.. mind.. numbingly.. fucking ... ree ree

Worth pointing out that an actual game developer wrote that, not a journalist (sorry, "journalist,"), and his point isn't awful. I haven't played the game, but it sounds very much like a somewhat clever game moment. But if games keep trying to be more than games, game moments sometimes get in the way. Something that's clever in a pure game, such as Mario, can be a bit tonally awkward in something more mature and deeper.
 
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15. Re: etc. Oct 1, 2014, 18:17 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 17:52:
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 15:47:

Journalism degrees neither make you more likely to be a journalist nor better at being a journalist.
Your first source doesn't offer any sources. The second is an opinion survey, brilliant.

Ug.
You realize what you quoted is my point, not something I sourced.
The second source, which you vapidly complain is a survey, is reporting that under 40% of journalists surveyed had journalism degrees, so yes, a survey reporting the findings of a survey makes perfect sense.

The first source is independent research which, again, would not have a source because it is it's own source. Someone taking the list of Pulitzer Prize winners and digging into their educational background isn't something that gets sourced. The author is the Washington Post journalist who broke the Hoover/FBI political spying story, so she likely knows a few things about journalism. As former head of a college journalism program, she probably also knows something about journalism education.


Do you even understand how sourcing works?
 
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13. Re: etc. Oct 1, 2014, 15:49 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Oct 1, 2014, 15:37:
It sounds like no one actually read Dan's statement:

Why? I simply received a great opportunity and offer, and it made me realize that this is as good a time as any in my life to make such a big change. Iíve been doing gaming journalism for 18-and-a-half years now, and Iíve been hovering around the same position (editor-in-chief or editorial director) for 13 of them. So I hope you donít blame me for seeking new challenges. I want to grow and learn new things in the industry that I love, and this new company is offering me a chance to experience ďthe other side.Ē I canít, however, reveal what Iím doing at this point ó the company for whom Iíll be working has its own plans for announcing my hire.

(Now, before this gets turned into something completely stupid, this has nothing to do with the anti-journalist movement known as #GamerGate. Even though I havenít been dragged into that drama in a negative way, it is certainly at the top of the list of ďThings I Canít Wait to Leave Behind.Ē)
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What's interesting is that where he's going is a potential conflict of interest for his current employer, meaning that it's almost definitely a game company, and that he's created a board game with game devs he's friendly with.

Because, in this industry, where there's really no investigative journalism to be done, people are all friendly regardless of job function.
 
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