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News Comments > Prey 2 Cancelled
23. Re: Prey 2 Cancelled Oct 31, 2014, 14:47 Beamer
 
Acleacius wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 14:19:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 13:50:
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But this is conspiracy theory stuff. With absolutely zero evidence other than "I don't think he's telling the truth about it being low quality," you're saying "Bethesda is intentionally writing off a multi-million dollar investment because they don't like someone."

This is something that happens in movies, not in real life. Bethesda is not putting a game in a closet because they think someone at Human Head needs to wear more deodorant.

And, frankly, Prey was a pretty bad game. Not on ACM/DNF level, but it wasn't particularly good. The newest Batman was a big disappointment. Dead Man's Hand is a 62 on Metacritic. It isn't as if Human Head has some great history of fantastic releases, and Prey 2 seems to be the biggest risk they took.

It not being particularly fun and, at this point, not seemingly able to be very fun without an enormous amount of work seems far more likely than "Whelp, let's write-off the $20 million we spent to develop this game, Mark in Accounting called me a jerk so we'll show him!"
Wow, you are really taking this to extremes, aren't you. If you think, companies refusing to do business due to grudges is only the stuff of movies and fantasies don't let me get in your way. Not to mention the fact, I never said my "feeling" was based on fact. Does Blue's feelings, have to be fact now too? Or what about you, do your feelings have to be factual, too? Hahaha_no

I've heard many stories about how publisher representatives clash with developers, constantly wanting unreasonable revisions with-in unreasonable time frames or completely changing the foundations of the original design. These are reasonably factual probabilities, without me needing to be in every meeting and witnessing them in person.

It's also factual to most people Human Head games don't suck. They are the creative minds behind some pretty good games (maybe not your taste) Heretic, Hexen, Hexen II, Heretic II, Rune and Prey.

Hopefully Mark in accounting can do the numbers. Giggle

No, you aren't talking about them being unwilling to do business. They already did business! The game was made, with Bethesda doing most of the financing. Which means the business was done.

Your feeling doesn't need to be based on fact, you said it as if it was, but it's a conspiracy theory.

Yes, publishers clash with devs and want changes. This is true, but this has NOTHING to do with your post. But they don't pull games that they've already paid for simply because they do not like someone. That does not happen.

You aren't saying "the publisher had unreasonable demands" what you said was "Bethesda is willing to let an investment of probably $20 million dollars go because they did not like someone."

That doesn't happen. I'm going to repeat that again: publishers do not cancel good, playable, complete games that they've sunk 8 figures into simply because they do not like someone.
 
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News Comments > Prey 2 Cancelled
18. Re: Prey 2 Cancelled Oct 31, 2014, 13:50 Beamer
 
Acleacius wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 13:42:
Beamer wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 12:41:
Acleacius wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 12:22:
MajorD wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 12:03:
It's a directional smoke screen; there's more to it than this line of crap. It's just hard for me to believe that with that much development time and money they would all of a sudden just decide to cancel it. Something smells.....
You are so right, man. What it feels like to me is bethesda has "unjustified" personal issues with Human Head or someone at Human Head.

Wait. You think they wouldn't cancel a game because it was bad, but would because of "unjustified" personal issues with someone at Human Head?

Bethesda would not lose millions of dollars for personal issues, "unjustified" or not.
They would lose millions of dollars rather than putting out an Alien Colonial Marines or Duke Nukem Forever, as those are the kinds of things that really stick with your reputation.
But doesn't your position rely on it being a bad game on the level of ACM or DNF, which none of Human Heads games have been. Afai can tell, there's no reason to believe it's the case. There's no way I would take the word of someone who was hired to be a PR spin doctor, who's been feeding gamers false info about "game quality", since the Pre-Oblivion days.


But this is conspiracy theory stuff. With absolutely zero evidence other than "I don't think he's telling the truth about it being low quality," you're saying "Bethesda is intentionally writing off a multi-million dollar investment because they don't like someone."

This is something that happens in movies, not in real life. Bethesda is not putting a game in a closet because they think someone at Human Head needs to wear more deodorant.

And, frankly, Prey was a pretty bad game. Not on ACM/DNF level, but it wasn't particularly good. The newest Batman was a big disappointment. Dead Man's Hand is a 62 on Metacritic. It isn't as if Human Head has some great history of fantastic releases, and Prey 2 seems to be the biggest risk they took.

It not being particularly fun and, at this point, not seemingly able to be very fun without an enormous amount of work seems far more likely than "Whelp, let's write-off the $20 million we spent to develop this game, Mark in Accounting called me a jerk so we'll show him!"
 
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News Comments > Prey 2 Cancelled
15. Re: Prey 2 Cancelled Oct 31, 2014, 12:41 Beamer
 
Acleacius wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 12:22:
MajorD wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 12:03:
It's a directional smoke screen; there's more to it than this line of crap. It's just hard for me to believe that with that much development time and money they would all of a sudden just decide to cancel it. Something smells.....
You are so right, man. What it feels like to me is bethesda has "unjustified" personal issues with Human Head or someone at Human Head.

Wait. You think they wouldn't cancel a game because it was bad, but would because of "unjustified" personal issues with someone at Human Head?

Bethesda would not lose millions of dollars for personal issues, "unjustified" or not.
They would lose millions of dollars rather than putting out an Alien Colonial Marines or Duke Nukem Forever, as those are the kinds of things that really stick with your reputation.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
36. Re: etc., etc. Oct 31, 2014, 11:49 Beamer
 
InBlack wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 03:52:
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 18:41:
It's hard to fault her on blaming the Seattle shooting on misogyny. Early reports, and the twitter feeds of those involved, make it look like he killed a girl because she wouldn't be with him.

Wha..? Seriously, Jesus Beamer you really go off on the deep end with this issue over and over again. Hating/Loving ONE person (for whatever reason) is hardly hating all womankind. A mentally ill person is NOT a misogyinst. Its not a fucking disease, nor is it a mental condition. Its prejudice, pure and simple. A jelaous rage is not misogyny. You are doing a disservice to all reasonable people (including feminists) by obsfucating the issue with bullshit like this!

No.
Sorry.
Again, feeling that a women belongs to you is misogyny. Do you ever see a woman kill a man because she feels that not belonging to her is worthy of death? No. But you see men do it. You see laws that literally tell men that their wives bodies belong to them.

Again, misogyny isn't "hatred," much like homophobia isn't hatred. It's prejudice. And believing a woman belongs to you is prejudice against women. It's feeling that you have some ownership.

Here's an interesting article that explains how it's misogyny and says his actions were due to the unfair pressure men feel due to the decline of the patriarchy.

I mean, isn't it certainly possible he was both mentally unwell and reacting to a certain institutionalized misogyny that tells men that they deserve women? That, particularly when this guy was homecoming king, he deserves the woman of his choice? How many times have you seen a teen movie in which the homecoming king is ever, ever denied a female?
And speaking of ownership, how many movies have you seen in which two men see a girl and spend the movie fighting over which gets to be with her? Fairly common theme in movies, men fighting over who gets to be with a woman. Who deserves her more. Rarely do they actually take the woman's opinion into account. This is pretty much how men go through society - feeling as if they can just "prove" themselves. Has anyone here really had relationships that were series of them proving themselves? Nope, but Hollywood repeatedly tells young boys this is how you get women. It's on the decline - that Chris Pine movie about it failed miserably and was called creepy, but it's still a fairly common thing.
And that, despite me knowing you'll fight against it, is misogyny.
 
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35. Re: etc., etc. Oct 31, 2014, 11:41 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 09:06:
jdreyer wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 06:52:
No matter how right you are, it doesn't matter. Squirmer is right. You lost. Anita played the game better than you did. She "won" even if her fairly radical agenda is too extreme for most people. She became the spokesperson fighting against sexism in gaming, an industry with revenues in the 10s of billions. The mainstream media picked it up, and her along with it. This week: NYTimes, Colbert. Next week: Charlie Rose? CNN? And who do you have? Angry Joe? Yahtzee? No matter how you look at it, it's a total disaster.

Anita Sarkeesian isn't the enemy. Or, at least she's not my enemy. The enemy are unrepentant, biased, and bullshit press outlets. Gamergate gives her a boost, but she's never come out in defense of gaming journalism. Why would she? She's not even a gamer. She doesn't know anything about those sites or the issues involved there.

The conversation is just now starting to get back to where it was supposed to be, ethics in game journalism. The gaming press is running out of "victims" to distract everyone with. The moderates in Gamergate have been contacting advertisers, arranging interviews with the more reasonable people in the gaming press on the subject of ethics in journalism, etc. Basically they've just been waiting for the distraction engine to run out of fuel, which is happening. Anita Sarkeesian has already moved on to mainstream press which don't even cover games, so she's effectively a non-issue. Her increased profile is actually really good for gamers because she can move on to something more interesting to her than games.

What braindead trolls like Squirmer and Beamer never seemed to understand is that there wasn't just one conflict here and two sides. You had Anita/Feminists vs. Trolls on the Internet, and Gamergate vs. gaming press and associated shills. That first conflict is dying down, but the Gamergate hashtag overall has shown no signs of slowing down, and we're just starting to see an increase in coverage regarding the ethics issue.

In short, the idiots co-opting the argument for their own platforms and agendas are moving on, and Gamergate is actually starting to be about Gamergate again and not endless stupid distractions. Our own local Blue's News idiots will continue to try and push the feminism angle for a while until they get bored. But in the places where it matters, things are finally starting to look up. I'm really glad the conversation is slowly getting back on track.

At the end of the day, Anita Sarkeesian wins, Gamergate wins, gaming press loses.

You need a new hashtag/name if these are the things you believe.

And I find it so weird that this week I'm a braindead troll but last week I was:
NKD wrote on Oct 7, 2014, 17:47:
Beamer wrote on Oct 7, 2014, 17:06:

This is like the third topic you've agreed with me on in 2 days. Are you sure you don't want to change your opinion? Haha.

Hah. I can only think of one topic in recent memory I've disagreed with you on, so really that's the exception rather than the rule. You seem to avoid the trap of unwarranted and/or premature hating on anything and everything more than most people around here. And you're not a hit-and-run poster who will post something completely asinine and then vanish before reading any possible disagreement. Not saying I don't think you ever post anything asinine, but you stick around and discuss at the very least.

 
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3. Re: etc. Oct 31, 2014, 11:35 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Oct 31, 2014, 09:57:
Hahahahah. Priceless. Not only is Gamergate simply a bunch of goons issuing rape and death threats, but violent video games made them do it.

That's disappointing.
Both sides need to stop doing this. Throw this idiot out. Throw Adam Baldwin, Milo, Christine Hoff Sommers, and all the feminism-haters out. Throw anyone that's either never discussed video games or only discussed from the exact agenda they're taking on Gamergate out. Too many only discussing this thing because they care about something other than games, on both sides.
 
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News Comments > Prey 2 Cancelled
3. Re: Prey 2 Cancelled Oct 31, 2014, 10:15 Beamer
 
Aww man. So long as its bad content, not bad qa, just release it on steam for 4.99. Bethesda gets some money back and we get to see what failed, with the knowledge its a sub par product and priced as such.  
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News Comments > Gone Gold - Far Cry 4
11. Re: Gone Gold - Far Cry 4 Oct 30, 2014, 21:03 Beamer
 
Cyant wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 20:57:
Easy choice for me, Inquisition is EA on Origin hence im not touching it.

This requires Ubis's version whose name I can't remember.
 
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News Comments > etc., etc.
9. Re: etc., etc. Oct 30, 2014, 20:30 Beamer
 
dubfanatic wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 20:26:
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 20:22:
Those are factors of both the shooting and misogyny, but shooting a woman because she won't be yours is absolutely misogyny.

Same with the California shootings. I know Milo Breitbart said it was due to video games, not misogyny, but shooting women because they won't have sex with you; having such a feeling of entitlement to their bodies that they deserve to die for not allowing you access to it, is misogyny, your eyeroll emoticon or not.

If we reversed the genders here, and it was a spurned girl who murdered a boy, would it be misandry?

There's no institutionalized or historical version of women having control or ownership of a man's body, so no, yet there are still some states where a man legally cannot rape his wife.
 
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5. Re: etc., etc. Oct 30, 2014, 20:22 Beamer
 
dubfanatic wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 20:18:
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 18:41:
It's hard to fault her on blaming the Seattle shooting on misogyny. Early reports, and the twitter feeds of those involved, make it look like he killed a girl because she wouldn't be with him.

Yep, misogyny. Not untreated mental illness, not a product of a degenerate culture that glorifies violence and hyper-individuality. It's definitely misogyny. Rolleyes

Those are factors of both the shooting and misogyny, but shooting a woman because she won't be yours is absolutely misogyny.

Same with the California shootings. I know Milo Breitbart said it was due to video games, not misogyny, but shooting women because they won't have sex with you; having such a feeling of entitlement to their bodies that they deserve to die for not allowing you access to it, is misogyny, your eyeroll emoticon or not.
 
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2. Re: etc., etc. Oct 30, 2014, 18:41 Beamer
 
It's hard to fault her on blaming the Seattle shooting on misogyny. Early reports, and the twitter feeds of those involved, make it look like he killed a girl because she wouldn't be with him.  
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29. Re: etc. Oct 30, 2014, 13:39 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:48:
Those, obviously, are extremes. But just because you have people of X type in your organization doesn't mean your organization is beneficial to X type.

No, but it is a clear indication that those type X people in the group don't find your organization harmful to them, which is compelling evidence that it may not be. No offense, but I would take the word of a women who says being affiliated with Gamergate isn't harmful to women over the words of a guy who is vehemently anti-GG and more importantly isn't, ya know, a woman.

The amount of women I have seen posting pro-GG stuff clearly indicates that they aren't even close to the Nazi-loving Jews you mention. You seem to be going to great lengths in trying to dismiss the women in the group, which sounds kind of sexist to me.

Your points are entirely valid, but one sided. You're listening only to the women that you want to, right? That are saying what you want to hear? There are women everywhere, on any viewpoint related to this.
Which, of course, you can say to me. But I'd argue that more women fall onto one side and those women are being more honest about the more general experiences of being a woman rather than the specific individual experiences they've had.

You should take the word of a woman over mine. But I believe you're ignoring the word of more women to take the word of that one.

Also, like I said, the nazi/jew/slavery stuff was an extreme. It's obviously not what's going on here, to that extent, it's just the extreme example of how people end up believing things.

Lastly, for all the talk of third wave feminism believing that people are brainwashed, it's certainly true that institutionalized discrimination leads people to think that status quo is normal and acceptable and that there's no reason for change.
 
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28. Re: etc. Oct 30, 2014, 13:36 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:41:
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:32:
And, still, it amuses me that people keep pointing out all the women and minorities in Gamergate as evidence that it isn't just white men and therefore not racist or misogynist, yet the same people use #notmyshield. They're literally trotting out non-white people as shields!

Doesn't the existence of women (and there are more than just a few) actually prove that it isn't just men? And from what I've seen, the overall movement (the non-sensationalist part that the media ignores but makes up the vast majority of the movement) is in no way misogynist or racist.

And for the record I have never even mentioned "Not My Shield", nor do I intend to.

I do find it funny that Beamer mentioned the #NotYourShield thing. Apparently, when some other group or movement tries to claim you or make you into a victim to lend legitimacy to their cause, speaking up for yourself and saying "I'm not part of your cause, thanks. I support your opponents." is hypocritical and merely a way to shield cis white males, rather than someone speaking up for themselves.

It's a no-win situation. Stay quiet and be used as a shield. Speak up, be accused of being a token, shield, or shill for the other side.

It's not no-win. Just don't use a hashtag bragging about not using people as evidence of something when you're using people as evidence of something.
 
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News Comments > Morning Tech Bits
17. Re: Tim Cook: Oct 30, 2014, 13:34 Beamer
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 13:20:
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:50:
You don't think it's important, because you've never been gay...

You know my sexuality? We're friends? We hang out? You're part of my life? Kindly don't try to tell someone what their personal interests are or are not.

I don't think it's important because, quite frankly, it just isn't. This isn't 1954 and there is more social acceptance than ever. We have openly gay entertainers, political figures, business people, teachers, name any profession you wish...gay folk doing the job competently and adroitly as any other person with a differing sexual orientation. In the last three years alone, we've seen a massive shift in the amount of states that allow marriages between same sex couples and even the Supreme Court has been overturning state laws that are narrowly defining marriages or outright trying to ban same sex marriages. When DOMA was being shat out in 1996, then being gay was important. When it was ruled wildly unconstitutional last year, it shifted the political and social landscape to being about the equitable application of law to all people, not merely a select, approved class.

Outside of people who want to make it an issue, telling someone you're gay is about as shocking as telling them you like watching The Walking Dead.

Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:50:
And if it's so unimportant to you, why are you the one posting about it the most?

Because I want Tim Cook to spend far more time continuing to make my portfolio wealthy, and innovating to make that portfolio even more wealthy, and less time writing fluff articles.

Now, do you plan to post something meaningful or continue on with this false dilemma chest thumping?

It's not 1954. It's also not an area of full equality, and more leaders coming out like this will help advance equality. You seem less concerned with him writing an essay and more concerned with implying we have parity and equality, which is kind of laughable.

Which political figures are openly gay?
 
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13. Re: Tim Cook: Oct 30, 2014, 12:50 Beamer
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:46:
Beamer wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:43:
Except, you know, there are still 29 states in this country in which you can be fired for being gay...

Would those be Right to Work states? If so, being fired for being gay is a non-issue as termination can happen for no or any specified reason whatsoever and it's completely legal. Don't like it? Have the citizens of those states repeal the laws or pass amendments to them.

So, you know, it's still silly to come out and say "I'm gay" as it is unimportant.

It's not unimportant, though.
How many openly gay Fortune 500 CEOs are there?

You don't think it's important, because you've never been gay and had to stress over how that being out in the air would negatively impact your life, your relationships, and your opportunities.

It's nice that you're here saying "it doesn't matter," but to a very large amount of straight people and to nearly every gay person, it does matter, one way or another.

And if it's so unimportant to you, why are you the one posting about it the most?
 
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9. Re: Tim Cook: Oct 30, 2014, 12:43 Beamer
 
Burrito of Peace wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:25:
So now the whole world knows that you like dick, Tim. Who fucking cares. This is 2014. Being gay is about as revealing and controversial as having blonde hair.

Except, you know, there are still 29 states in this country in which you can be fired for being gay (it's a bit more complicated than that, but only 21 states have blanket protection laws, and 19 have none at all), and Tim Cook felt the need to go this far before coming out of the closet out of concerns for what it would do to his career.
 
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17. Re: etc. Oct 30, 2014, 12:39 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:32:
And, still, it amuses me that people keep pointing out all the women and minorities in Gamergate as evidence that it isn't just white men and therefore not racist or misogynist, yet the same people use #notmyshield. They're literally trotting out non-white people as shields!

Doesn't the existence of women (and there are more than just a few) actually prove that it isn't just men? And from what I've seen, the overall movement (the non-sensationalist part that the media ignores but makes up the vast majority of the movement) is in no way misogynist or racist.

And for the record I have never even mentioned "Not My Shield", nor do I intend to.

No one is saying it's solely men. There's ample evidence contrary to that.
What people are saying is that it's predominantly men, to the point that it is effectively just men, and even those not just men are paroting standard MRA talking points. There are plenty of women that think MRA is fine - Christine Sommers Hoff being chief among them.

I mean, this is taking to an extreme, but it isn't uncommon. There has been enormous amounts of coverage during the current Kentucky Congressional Race about people living in the extreme rural/mountain poverty in the middle of the state voting for candidates that run on a platform of decreasing the benefits they need to survive. There is plenty of documentation about slaves that supported slavery, or jews that supported nazis.

Those, obviously, are extremes. But just because you have people of X type in your organization doesn't mean your organization is beneficial to X type.
 
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15. Re: etc. Oct 30, 2014, 12:34 Beamer
 
An editorial on The Verge declares Gamergate dead. For those of you that fail to understand nuance, this does not mean it's 100% over ["X is dead" never does], nor is The Verge as a whole declaring this [an editorial by a senior editor is not the same as an entire publication saying something.]

However, he makes good points:
1) Gamergate has never gained any traction outside its small group of believers
2) There have been plenty of people screaming "ethics!" yet no one pointing out a single ethical violation
3) Yet there is absolutely an ethical issue
4) Gamergate needs to die, because it was never focused and never made sense
5) Hopefully something intelligent can come from this that is more organized and actually focused on journalism ethics rather than constantly sidetracked with "social issues are contray to journalism ethics!" which is untrue, or simply devolving into harassment
 
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13. Re: etc. Oct 30, 2014, 12:26 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:23:
UHD wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:16:
ASeven wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:07:
One more real feminist writes in defense of GamerGate.

"Real feminists agree with me."

I don't know if she is actually a feminist, but she makes an interesting point:

...With few exceptions, GamerGate has been portrayed as a group of aggrieved white straight males who don’t want women, gays, and minorities on their turf—even though female, gay, transgender, and minority gamers are among the movement’s most passionate supporters.

They're among the supporters, but you can find plenty of people that are against things that benefit them. For instance, Milo Breitbart has written anti-gay articles but identifies himself as "90% gay," and he's written anti-semetical articles yet identifies himself as "jewish," though he's never offered evidence of it.

Virtually every movement has people that are against it despite being the type of person the movement claims to benefit.

And, still, it amuses me that people keep pointing out all the women and minorities in Gamergate as evidence that it isn't just white men and therefore not racist or misogynist, yet the same people use #notmyshield. They're literally trotting out non-white people as shields!
 
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11. Re: etc. Oct 30, 2014, 12:20 Beamer
 
ASeven wrote on Oct 30, 2014, 12:07:
One more real feminist writes in defense of GamerGate.

"The feminism of male demonization and female victimhood has become an insidious force that, despite its faux-progressive trappings, stands in the way of genuine equality. Whatever its flaws, GamerGate is a politically diverse movement of cultural resistance to this brand of toxic feminism. For that, it deserves at least two cheers."

Jesus, stop saying "real" when someone agrees with you. It's baffling. And, in your terms, "intellectually dishonest."


Nice avoidance of how much you supported Colbert and now are realizing you were wrong.
And nice avoidance of getting called on spreading misinformation about Sarkeesian supporting #cancelcolbert. I'm guessing it's because she used the hashtag, which I'd hope #gamergate proves is used by anyone in a discussion, not just those supporting the cause.

I mean, hell, nothing in her post condemns Colbert, nor does the article she links to condemn Colbert. It condemsn the asswipes making racist and misogynist attacks.
If anything, it's right in line with every single thing she's ever done.

However, it's entertaining to think that many of the people that flipped out over someone trying to censor Colbert for saying something they didn't like are now emailing sponsors trying to censor Gawker and Gamasutra for saying things they didn't like.
 
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