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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
8. Re: Morning Consolidation Nov 18, 2014, 11:07 Beamer
 
Every time these commercials come on TV I get excited. The music is right, the visuals are nuts. It looks amazing.

Then the commercial goes longer and I remember that I hated the plot, hated the characters, and hated many of the missions (loved loved loved chasing the plane on the dirtbike.)

Not sure. Such a wonderful engine/world, but what they did with it wasn't just bad to me. Spending time with those cutscenes and side missions is something I don't think you could even pay me to do.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer
41. Re: Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer Nov 18, 2014, 10:12 Beamer
 
I actually totally agree with verno. I don't mind piracy much when people don't act like they're doing something noble, or even nothing wrong.

This guy things he's awesome and brilliant for it.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer
40. Re: Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer Nov 18, 2014, 10:09 Beamer
 
It's weird that this guy steals, justifies it as ok, then calls people out for calling him out and days we're justifying name calling.

Calling someone entitled for stealing without thinking it's stealing is already justified.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer
16. Re: Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer Nov 18, 2014, 01:21 Beamer
 
Not sure how you can deny entitlement, or that taking something without paying is kind of scummy.  
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer
13. Re: Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer Nov 17, 2014, 23:40 Beamer
 
Dacron wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 23:20:
Beamer wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 20:55:
I don't get this. You're playing it when it's $60, pay $60.
If you want to wait until it's $10 to buy it, wait until it's $10 to play it.

Seems just scummy to me to do otherwise. It's a way to pirate something yet not feel guilty about it, even though you're enjoying a $60 product without paying for a $60 product.

I'm paying $0 when it's $100 because I do not feel the product is worth $100, and I don't feel like waiting or paying a price that is not justified. You can use all your insults you want, it will not change it and makes you look quite immature to slander those you disagree with Regardless if you think my position makes me immature... 2 wrongs and all.

Publishers know this, they bet on the fact that enough buy it @ $100 (game + pass) to make MORE money than selling a traditional, full game @ 60. It is working, as more 0 day DLC games get released. Or games with a fraction of content they use to have... at the same price to allow planned content added later. Or cutting mods to force purchase of 4 maps for $10. Or pre order bonuses, which are cut content awarded for pre purchasing.

I'll pirate it, and buy it if I continue beyond the first ten minutes when the publisher has decided it can no longer sell it at $100, and releases it's complete version at a reasonable price. It's economics to the publisher, and to me.

I do not expect you to agree with this, or even do it. But don't think calling me scummy or trying to guilt me will effect my decision on the matter, my library use to be 100% pirated when I was younger. By some of the replies my pirating games effects some of your guys' conciseness more than mine.

I buy full price games frequently. Saddle it with day-0 DLC and your the chance I buy it is out the window.

walrus1 wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 21:16:
No we don't "all win." In fact most of us lose, thanks to pirates like yourself, due to delayed releases and DRM.

Yes, pirating released games delays them. And naturally companies will stop using their DRM when piracy stops... they don't use it for the metrics (uplay... origin.... steam). No, they would rather pay for their market research.

It's not an insult, it's a fact. "I don't feel like waiting" is entitlement, pure and simple. You don't get to make that decision. By making it, you feel entitled to someone else's hard work.

Publishers know this, so they add all kinds of crazy DRM to stop people like you. You think you're gaming the system, but you're ruining it. Not to mention how many games are written off for not selling enough copies because people like you just pirate it and wait for it to be cheap on Steam.

There are a billion games in everyone's backlog, why not play those while you wait for the game to get at the price you want. Why pirate?

Entitlement. That's why.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer
6. Re: Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer Nov 17, 2014, 20:55 Beamer
 
Dacron wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 20:44:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 20:38:
Like most of the "AAA" games these days... looking forward to the GotY version when it hits $10 or less.


I use to pirate everything, then I grew up and built a good library of legal games.

The more I see these $100 releases with season passes and bullshit, the more I go back to old roots. Pirate the game, buy it complete a year later for $10 with everything.

But if they are making more money from the die hard fans good for them, it'll help me build a dirt cheap library while playing everything soon after release. So we all win.

I don't get this. You're playing it when it's $60, pay $60.
If you want to wait until it's $10 to buy it, wait until it's $10 to play it.

Seems just scummy to me to do otherwise. It's a way to pirate something yet not feel guilty about it, even though you're enjoying a $60 product without paying for a $60 product.
 
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News Comments > Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer
3. Re: Far Cry 4 Season Pass Trailer Nov 17, 2014, 20:38 Beamer
 
Someone linked me to a Kotaku article today about "My First 20 Hours in FC4." It sounded pretty spectacular. Seems very much like they 100% took what they'd already built and just improved/enhanced. Like a good 2nd version of a game in the same engine should.  
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
258. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 17, 2014, 17:46 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 17:07:
I can still play the new XCOM (which is awesome) and the original XCOM right after, and Xenonauts is about to work its way in there. Elite is going back a bit too far for me personally but everyone's threshold of tolerance will be different. The original Jagged Alliance is a bit blocky but Jagged Alliance 2 seems like it is much more future-proofed. I think it still looks good for what it is and probably will for another ten years.

Yup, definitely different thresholds, which is why I started with "personally." I've defended low-res gaming here before, because you do adjust to it, but I find that I'm towards the end of my interest. Most of the best games out there then have games out now that do things differently but usually, in aggregate, better. Components may be worse, but the actual product is better.

SS2 is one many will say hasn't been surpassed.
JA2, too. That's a dead genre. Seems people are working on it in Kickstarter, but mostly from an RPG perspective. JA2 gets dinged for being low res and 2D. There are times that being able to rotate the camera would be a dream. But, since it's a dead genre, I'll just play it for the 900th time.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
252. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 17, 2014, 17:34 Beamer
 
Creston, I played a TON of CS in college. So much that I'm pretty certain it was a third major.

I remember those blips. You're playing, then suddenly you get the feeling that you're alone. Maybe you stop hearing firing. Maybe you see character models not moving or even rubber banding. You hope it comes back, but it doesn't. You just get dropped.

Inevitably it happens in a game where you were something nuts like 25-1, too.
Most infuriating thing ever.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
245. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 17, 2014, 16:51 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 16:42:
Part of it is some of us are old-fashioned too. We can still play the original Elite today, 30 years later. As long as people continue to write dos emulation programs for new OS's, that will continue to be true indefinitely. Making a new version require constant main server interaction in order to run means that it is likely that the same will not be true for Elite Dangerous. The obvious question is "Why would you want to?" but GOG.com has shown that many people do want to revisit old abandoned games. Being the nostalgia-nut that I am, I often do. The idea that games will eventually become "lost" to us when the servers inevitably go down makes me sad.

Personally, I find so many of those games difficult to go back to, as tech has changed so much. The last old game I repeatedly played was XCOM, but the new XCOM satisfies that itch and OpenXCOM kind of made me realize I'm done going back. Prior to that I played a ton of Civ, too, but Civ4 broke that.

I guess, at some point, I'll return to JA2, too, but I tried JA1 once and man, I just couldn't.
By and large most of my trips to games I once loved are short lived, as I realize that they sometimes do some deep things much better than modern games but do so many more basic things worse. For instance, man, no one knew how to make a UI.

I don't see this changing much. Where will we be in 20 years? Will everything be VR and it is ridiculous to not have a headset? Possibly. Or maybe everything will be on curved 4K displays. Maybe headsets that read brainwaves will replace traditional input devices.

In any of those scenarios, I'll probably happily be playing Civ 18 rather than going back to Civ 4, despite me thinking that it's pretty much a perfect, flawless game.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
241. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 17, 2014, 16:22 Beamer
 
Honestly, I do think a lot of people that cancel will probably still buy (and still complain about it not having offline.)
I get that, to some people, it matters a lot. Someone mentioned people in a submarine, which is, like, maybe 5 people that preorders.
Others are like Creston, who has repeatedly mentioned his cruddy DSL connection. Without more details, not knowing if a small blip will end his play session is a huge issue.

In reality, most people complaining will probably never have any problem at all. They build up all these potential issues, but those will never actually occur.

Regardless, they also bought the game not thinking they'd need to worry about it. Had the game been always always-on, they would have complained and moved on. Legally, I'd say this isn't a material change because it won't really impact anyone and if you actually add up the amount of time they're impacted vs the amount of time they play it'll be pennies.
Emotionally? I totally get why people feel hosed and want a refund. And I won't judge them for asking for that refund.

It's a pretty big change in an area that's a pretty sensitive subject. I have great uptime on my connection, so this isn't something I'd blink at. I recall the days before Steam offline and being furious at my internet being down for the 20 minutes I wanted to game. If I still had a similar connection, I'd be pretty bummed.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
12. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Nov 17, 2014, 15:07 Beamer
 
On a board full of people ranging from mid 30s to mid 60s, you know someone has nothing of substance when they resort to the "you're probably too young to remember this" argument.

We see it pretty often here, too. "I was playing SNES when you were still in diapers!"
 
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News Comments > Goat Simulator Free MMO Expansion Thursday
14. Re: removed Nov 17, 2014, 13:28 Beamer
 
* REMOVED *


(this wasn't actually removed, it's just that everyone else was doing it and I felt left out.)
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
226. Re: Into the Black Nov 17, 2014, 13:27 Beamer
 
AngelicPenguin wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 12:56:
Slick wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 12:06:
you'll never hear the kind of outrage you see here about a blizzard game, or a valve game. they're untouchable, and it's interesting to note.

Never read any D3 threads I guess.

Or the 600 post HL2 release post someone bumped over the weekend. Plenty of people whining about it being a greedy cash-grab that's overscripted.

10 years later, nothing has changed.
 
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News Comments > Morning Legal Briefs
4. Re: Op Ed Nov 17, 2014, 12:17 Beamer
 
ldonyo wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 12:15:
LibertyOrDeath wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 12:00:
Al Fraknkinstin is a big government democrat. You might want to research and find out about the truth. You actual want big government in your internet? Fools...
You might want to do some research of your own and find out what Net Neutrality really is before taking Ted Cruz at his word on it or writing comments about it.

Yeah, it's weird to me that people seem to think net neutrality is the government controlling the internet.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
182. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 17, 2014, 02:09 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Nov 17, 2014, 00:35:
WaltC wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 21:18:
walrus1 wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 20:37:

In this case he might be very well right. This is a case of fraud and might very well end up in court.

The only people class actions help are the attorneys who bring them...that is, if they can wrangle a settlement out of the company. The only certain thing about it all is that the bilked people wind up with little to nothing at all. Best plan: just don't put yourself in a position to get bilked. But if you've already paid, and you feel the company defrauded you by being less than honest--that is only true if they refuse to refund your money. If they offer you a refund then they haven't damaged you, but you can still sue--just be prepared to lose and eat a big lawyer fee at the end of it...;) Suing is a sucker's game all the way around, imo.

Oh, yea: a "Pledge" to pay is not the same thing as paying. Nor is a "Pledge" any sort of legally binding contract to pay, etc. If you've pledged but haven't yet paid you've lost nothing and certainly can hardly "ask for a refund"...Lol...;)

Only reason I brought this up is that some people are talking about having "pledged" as if they'd paid--once you pay, then the "pledge" is no more...;) If you've paid, then saying you've "pledged $5,000" is using exactly the wrong word--people pledge *before* they pay, and so on.

Wow, good thing you're not a lawyer. First, off people have been charged, so they've paid, so it's not a pledge. When the funding target is successful you get charged, that's how they get their money. Derp. Further a pledge is a contract. You're entering into an agreement to exchange money and/or goods for the same in return, that's a contract, sport. And when a someone changes those terms without the other party(s) agreeing, that's called breach of contract and it's civil law. If it's intentional then it's criminal because that's bait and switch. And when you do online or through any other form of media that's called wire fraud and when that crosses a state boundry it's called interstate wirefraud and that's criminally liable as well as civil. There's your law 101 education for today champ.

Legal Dictionary - Pledge

You're missing a key here, champ: damages.
Ignoring that Kickstarter isn't technically a contract and that there's language about what the final product ends up being, what are the damages?

Someone paid for a game. They got the game. No damages. Yes, they got a game that is somewhat changed, but it's essentially the same game. Absolutely no court in the world will find offline play a key component of a game that must be downloaded to be played. People pledged a massive online space sim that had an offline mode. They got a massive online space sim. The offline mode was not a material part of this.

None. It's a minor breach. Yes, it means some people can't play the game 100% of the time. But nearly everyone will be able to play it 99% of the time. And for those that can't, refunds are being accepted. There's literally no damages here. None. Zero. This does not defend these guys. Just means there is no legal case, like virtually every other time you claim someone should sue. And I love that you whine about America being so sue-happy and that's your defense for why you're so sue happy. You aren't even American or in America!

Your "law education 101" jas a fundamental misunderstanding of contracts, sport.



And Jesus, you calling people trolls is hysterical. 99% of your posts are either really random asides that have nothing to do with anything but a joke based on one word, a super negative post based on solely reading a headline, or just a super negative post in general.
You're quite literally the worst poster ever. And yet you call yourself a mostly positive person.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
162. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 21:59 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 21:39:
panbient wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 21:19:
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say...


PENIS!!!!


Considering the amount of name calling and hysterics in this thread it seems appropriate.

At least Godwin's Law hasn't raised its ugly head yet.

That's just what Hitler would have said!!!!;
 
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - Half-Life 2
537. Re: No subject Nov 16, 2014, 20:32 Beamer
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 16, 2004, 13:44:
I mean, realistic female models vs Hooters Girls exclusively? Which is more mature?

SJW 2K4!
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
146. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 20:29 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 18:35:
I was looking forward to this game. I was all set to buy it for Xmas. This is going to cost them a metric shit ton of sales. What happens to the company if the vast majority of backers demand their money back? Company folds then there's no game at all. Fuck if some lawsuits don't roll out from this.

We need to keep a running tally on how often Cutter claims there will be a class action lawsuit over something on the internet.
Guy loves his lawsuits.
 
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News Comments > Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped
51. Re: Refunds Demanded as Elite: Dangerous Offline Mode Scrapped Nov 16, 2014, 15:26 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 16, 2014, 15:13:
UT kept battles against the AI, and had some of the best and most configurable AI ever made. It's why I've bought every iteration. As for Halo, I'm pretty sure most action games were 3rd person because no one had come up with a decent way to do FPS on a console. Halo was the first one to do that, and it was kind of revolutionary.


Oh, I agree. Those were good changes.
This is a bad change.
Everyone requesting a refund is perfectly right to and probably making a good decision for themselves (though I imagine there's a significant knee-jerk reaction and a good chunk will end up purchasing this game anyway, if it's good.)

I'm not saying that these guys were right to do this or it's smart to do or whatever.
I'm saying the argument some are making that "they knew this from the start" and "this is just greed" and "they purposely timed this for after preorders to fuck everyone over" seems like a large leap. It may end up true, but people usually aren't savvy enough to come up with schemes like that, aren't malicious enough to execute schemes like that, and understand the public can not only spot schemes like that but, as evidenced here, love conspiracy theories so much that they'll create "evidence" of a conspiracy against them from absolutely nothing at all.
 
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