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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
155. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 20:07 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 20:00:
The Pyro wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 19:23:
For reference, Microsoft is currently the 3rd largest company in the world with a market capitalization of $340 billion. They have 100,000 employees. This offer puts the value of Mojang at almost 1% of that... an indie game being valued at almost 1% of the dominant business software company on the planet!

It's ridiculous.

But of course this isn't real money, here... it's inflated shares of stock. If you try to cash out all at once then you destroy the value of your stock in the process. You still end up filthy rich, of course...

MS Stock? 50 bucks a share.

Apple? $100. Google? $600. Why? Because they don't do dumb stuff like this.

I'm not sure if you don't understand how share prices work or you do and being 3rd biggest is massively unimpressive to you.
 
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News Comments > Morning Mobilization
8. Re: Iphone 6 DOA Sep 10, 2014, 18:53 Beamer
 
Fion wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 18:50:
I don't know, it'll have it's market. After all the Plus has a $500 price tag 'with' contract and still quite dramatically behind the competition specs wise while also $200 more expensive.

But I guess that's par for the course when it comes to Apple products.

What specs are "dramatically" behind?
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
148. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 18:37 Beamer
 
NewMaxx wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 18:27:
Those talking about LEGO are probably referring to the recent news article...

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-08/20/lego-fusion

The thing is, Lego can do that. Minecraft isn't Legos. Minecraft is exploring. And building some super complex things, sure, but that's damn near hacking a system that's both very limited and cleverly powerful.

I think there's fear of ripping Minecraft off, but you look at FortNite and it's Minecraft combined with a shooter.

Lego could easily capitalize on what makes them them (well, easily design on paper, not easily turn into a game.) Lego is about something different than Minecraft. It was about exploring zones, not exploring mines. It's about building planes and vehicles, not digging in the ground. There's overlap, but ultimately it's different things. And, with TECHNICS, they could probably build a more powerful (but probably less clever) system to build things.

Like, a true Lego game could combine Minecraft and Kerbel.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
144. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 18:24 Beamer
 
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 18:17:
Creston wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 17:32:
What? As of May 2014 (first link I could find, I'm lazy), Microsoft's market value was $343.82 billion. Do you seriously think Valve has 350 BILLION dollars in cash lying around? Steam made 1.5 billion dollars in revenue last year. I know it makes them insane amounts of money, but we're still talking massive levels of difference here.
Market value is different from capital value. But considering the other pies that they've got their fingers in? They could easily have ~200B in cash value assets as it sits right now. Usually when a company is selling, the market value is halved or cut down to 1/3 of the actual value.

Wait.
Wait wait wait.

1) Microsoft's market cap is $350 billion
2) This means that the total outstanding shares of Microsoft is $350 billion. Public companies sell below market cap exceedingly rarely
3) Valve in no way, shape, or form has $200 billion laying around. Do you know how few companies have that? They'd need to leverage themselves to hell, and these days leveraging yourself that far isn't easy
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
142. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 18:00 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 17:37:
Beamer wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 16:45:
$2 billion is 5 months of Lego revenue and 2 years of their net income. It's about a week and a half of Microsoft's revenue and about two months of net income.

I don't give a fuck, Notch could maybe even find it in his heart to sell to them for less money and at least have a better company behind it. Its a better match than soulless fucking microsoft and Lego desperately needs a digital presence.

Lego has some of the most successful video games out there, an MMO which they both develop and publish, and has never been worth more than it is right now, as it just ssurpassed Mattel as being the single biggest toy company in the world.

What makes you think they "desperately" need a digital presence?

And they could afford a fraction what Microsoft could. Meaning that, given their revenue, even a half a billion would be a pretty major purchase. They'd likely have to leverage themselves a good amount (that's what that word means, by the way. You meant "synergy" before.)
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
120. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 16:45 Beamer
 
Redmask wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 16:36:
I would much rather see it sold to Lego than Microsoft, it makes a lot more sense both from an artistic and financial leverage standpoint.

$2 billion is 5 months of Lego revenue and 2 years of their net income. It's about a week and a half of Microsoft's revenue and about two months of net income.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
115. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 16:07 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 16:01:
Bundy wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 14:49:
Verno wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 14:30:
Bundy wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 14:21:
I'd argue that it is, if not more. Go to any grade school and ask for a raise of hands on who likes Minecraft and I bet nearly all those little hands go up. My kids, and all their little friends. They live and breathe this game..

We have a 6 year old and I have yet to encounter anyone (parent or child) playing or mention Minecraft around here. So yeah anecdotes and all that. Besides, the casual market is fickle and unpredictable, everyone loved Justin Bieber not too long ago.

It is, I think, the third highest selling game of all time? Is that right? Or was it second? But either way far more than any pokemon game and it's barely started on the merch. Cards and board games will hit the market next. Let's not pretend it isn't a enormous, massive success. I'd wager my ancedotal evidence is better than yours.

Minecraft has sold 55 million copies. Pokemon as a franchise has sold five times that: 260 million copies. It will be interesting to see if MS tries to monetize MC the way Pokemon was monetized, and if they can reach the same heights. The potential is certainly there.

The biggest difference, though, is that Pokemon has characters. Minecraft has no Pikachu. That makes it harder to really monetize outside the game world.
But not impossible. Let's be honest, a live action Minecraft movie staring The Rock and some kids is probably a half a million dollar idea.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
35. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 10, 2014, 15:55 Beamer
 
Enahs wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 15:39:
Bodolza wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 14:09:
PHJF wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 11:34:
I use a simple salsa recipe (roma tomato, green onion, garlic, salt, lime juice, cilantro, hot sauce) that costs significantly more than simply buying a jar of Pace.

Some stuff, like ice cream or cheese, is cheaper to buy than make, but produce is cheap. These are the prices from my local store:

Pace:
$3.00 24 oz
$.125 per oz

Homemade salsa:
0.68 2 lb tomatoes
1.09 1 bundle green onions
0.10 1/2 head garlic
0.30 1/2 bundle cilantro
0.20 1 lime
0.20 2 jalapeno peppers

That's around $2.50 for about 40 oz of salsa, or $0.0625 an oz -- about half the price of Pace. You could use all organic ingredients and still come in a bit cheaper.

Do you live on a farm? Cause that is some cheap ass produce.

Seriously. Twenty cents for a lime. We had a lime shortage earlier this summer and they jumped to $1.50 per lime, and those had next to no juice. Not sure if that turned around, I actually haven't bought any in months.

Not sure where you buy cilantro for thirty cents, either. It makes no sense for a supermarket to stock that. I've seen it more like $3 or so for more than you need. So even if you only need a half bundle, you have to buy a full bundle, so the true cost is whatever a bundle is.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
108. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 15:54 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 15:47:
Beamer wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 11:55:

Free with Windows, only on Microsoft systems (Windows, WP, Xbox). Every young kid will want his next device to run Windows.


Make Minecraft exclusive on mobile to Windows Mobile?

Yup.
That'd be huge.

Also, I love the "Microsoft could build it's own studio for $2b!" Many, many companies have tried. Including Microsoft. They still haven't built a Minecraft.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
72. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 14:01 Beamer
 
Tumbler wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 13:58:
It seems like MS should be focusing on making their platform interface better all around.

I mean, it isn't one or the other. Entirely different people working on them. Plus, Minecraft will be for 3 of their platforms. 4, if they count RT. I don't know if it even still exists.

Given all the talk of One Windows for Windows 9, I'm still convinced this will come with all copies of Windows.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
28. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 10, 2014, 13:25 Beamer
 
Cooking at home can be costly when you're cooking for one. Things need to be purchased in bulk larger than one, so you end up either overcooking and not eating it all or you end up with ingredients spoiling.

It's a sad problem, haha.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
67. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 13:18 Beamer
 
TheEmissary wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 13:10:
Creston wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 13:07:
TheEmissary wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 13:05:
Sony kind of does have a Minecraft clone in development with EQ Next Landmark. I am pretty sure Next or Landmark will ever rise above niche status for most people and certainly no where near Minecraft levels.

Isn't Fortnite coming to PS4?

Its a PC exclusive as far as I know. Fortnite is more of an actual game than a free-form construction toolset. Yes you build forts but you have no where near the amount of options.

I played Fortnite for two hours at PAX.
It's not really Minecrafty. Like you said, you don't have as many options. You're literally building a fort, not intricate binary machines or rail systems that people do in Minecraft. You actually have a startling amount of options for that fort (like, windows, not sure what purpose they serve but you can build them), but it's still limited. What's nice is that you pick when the zombies attack, so you could spend hours building a huge fort. With OMD style traps (that I never learned how to use and which seemed limited in options, though the build I played was already 8 months old.)

The biggest difference is that you don't go into the ground in Fortnite. The landscape is already there. You just build on it. This doesn't mean no destruction - you are playing in towns, and I found it amazingly satisfying to reduce a mansion to rubble.

I loved Fortnite. There were a huge amount of holes, but Epic seemed aware and seemed to be filling those holes. That said, I played it in a preview style environment. Free drinks? Free swag? Devs sitting next to me breathlessly explaining features? It was hard not to love it. Maybe impossible. In the hours after I started thinking of the things I didn't like and they bugged me more, but I also mentioned most of these to the developers and they hinted that they'd already had those ideas and had already addressed them, or were working to.

It's no Minecraft, but it's a nice mix of Minecraft and purpose, for those of us that prefer games that give us purpose. I don't see people playing it for billions of hours, but I could see people playing it for months. Honestly, nearly any time I've played Minecraft I've thought "man, I wish I had guns and items." This gives you the guns and items, but removes the mining.

Lastly, whenever I see kids around 10 playing, they're in full sandbox mode. No creeps, no gravity, no resource collecting. Just god mode, no clip mode, infinite resources, and building giant things. Fortnite won't appeal to them like that. But it will capture the shooter curious about Minecraft, and maybe the Minecraft player curious about shooters.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
52. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 11:55 Beamer
 
SimplyMonk wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 11:29:
Beamer wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 11:14:
They don't tend to retroactively ruin things, they ruin new things

This.

But also it made me think... Most of the people I know that are super crazy about Minecraft are in the 8-14 age group. Children of friends or younger brothers and sisters. Its not unusual for me to be out and about and see little kids with their iPads in hand playing Minecraft while waiting in a line or eating food. Maybe this is Microsoft's goal? To soften their image to appeal to the next generation.

They've already either converted or enslaved who they can in the 16+ age bracket so now they are looking to work on the next generation as the old grandmas that still use IE3, because they think it is the only way to access their AOL e-mail, die off.

It's exactly what I'm thinking. In airports I see dozens of kids 6-15 playing MC on iPads.

Free with Windows, only on Microsoft systems (Windows, WP, Xbox). Every young kid will want his next device to run Windows.

Halo, which I guess some would argue was ruined but I'd both disagree and point out that it technically didn't exist prior, wasn't bought for Halo, it was bought to sell Xboxes. And it sold a bazillion. Minecraft could be Halo x1000. But man, I really think Microsoft is dumb if they don't free it.
 
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News Comments > Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B?
40. Re: Microsoft to Acquire Mojang for $2B? Sep 10, 2014, 11:14 Beamer
 
Some of the people in here condemning Microsoft for the possibility are the same that have fallen all over themselves to explain why Minecraft is the best thing ever.

And, if you're Microsoft, it damn well could be.

On other boards I've seen people argue that, like Skype, Microsoft would likely let this stay on other platforms. No way. They bought Skype to have a messaging platform. They're looking at MC to sell their other stuff.

At this point, they know that there's basically more copies of MC sold than residents of Canada. So I doubt they expect more sales there. However:
1) If they pull this from Sony, suddenly Microsoft is the only place to play
2) Even better, what if Minecraft replaces Solitaire and comes free with Windows 9? What if it comes free with Xbone? How many more people would jump on if it all became free? Buy a Surface, play Minecraft anywhere. Buy a Windows Phone, play Minecraft anywhere
3) Lego is the biggest toy company on Earth. Minecraft is basically Legos of the future
4) And, I understand why mod makers would be wary of this, and if Microsoft were smart they'd do nothing to touch that. But on consoles and phones, a Minecraft store selling stupid hats would easily rival the stupid stuff they sell for TF2, which makes Valve enormous amounts of money. On PC, the store can coexist with the mods, as many people would prefer to pay for something to work. Or Microsoft can be dicks and replace mods, but I really don't think they would do that. They don't tend to retroactively ruin things, they ruin new things



All this said, how come people don't complain about TF2 being mostly all sales rather than mods? Stupid hats and stupid effects used to be things you modded in. You can do levels in TF2, right? But visual effects all have to be purchased? I haven't played in years and years and years.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
50. Re: Op Ed Sep 10, 2014, 02:34 Beamer
 
William Usher wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 02:29:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 01:59:

I am honestly a little disappointed nobody has been compared to Hitler yet. Godwin's Law! It probably happened and I missed it though.

*EDIT* Grammar.



It happened on Twitter.

You'll also find plenty of it here:
http://gamergateharrassment.tumblr.com/

It's happened on twitter from both sides.
Which is why pointing to what idiots are doing on twitter is a bad idea.

Focus on what people here are doing. You know, the comparisons to Jack Thompson, or claims people are trying to take things away or censor. All of which is bullshit.

Fuck, why are you so hung up on what morons on twitter who may or may not be idiots from 4chan are saying? And then when some idiot #gamergate dude says something dumb, who may or may not be some idiot trying to make them look bad, you guys ignore it.

Let's agree to all ignore fucking morons on twitter. Stop using it as evidence of anything, and stop collecting it into asinine tumblrs. You're a goddamn adult with a goddamn job, quit being a child and quit doing the dumb shit like that Zoe Quinn "leak" everyone hated but is fucking doing themselves.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
5. Re: Evening Interviews Sep 10, 2014, 02:31 Beamer
 
Squirmer wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 23:11:
He says he wants open dialog without any accusations and namecalling and then says

"So, excuse me if I donít buy irrational feminists white and black ideas that men are inherently rapists and women are victims."


I just appreciate that they bothered publishing an interview with someone anonymous who may or may not exist.

But whatever. Of course the final line you quote makes perfect sense, his game is about the horrors of false accusations. For every false accusation there's what, 1,000 unreported acts? 10,000? This board has absolutely loved the "shut up, women in Africa are dying, what are you doing about it" argument, which isn't remotely related. Rape and false rape accusations are related, though. One seems a significantly larger issue than the other and more deserving of this kind of investigation.

Swear to god it's amazing how conservative games have suddenly gotten. This interview comes within inches of using "libtard."
 
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News Comments > Evening Mobilization
10. Re: Evening Mobilization Sep 10, 2014, 02:16 Beamer
 
Tim Collins wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 21:02:
They blew it bigtime by not using sapphire in the phones

Why?

Sapphire is super scratch resistant but pretty brittle.
What do you see more of? Scratched phones or cracked phones?

Sapphire will help the scratches and increase the cracks.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
337. Re: Op Ed Sep 10, 2014, 01:45 Beamer
 
Sepharo wrote on Sep 10, 2014, 01:19:
Guys, this topic only needed 17 (now 16) more comments to be in the top 10 most commented.

We can do it!
How did we get so many comments when this games journalism incident seems way, way worse but didn't even get 80 on Ars!
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
38. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 20:07 Beamer
 
Here's #gamergate people whining about how SJWs are blocking people on Twitter, yet on this very board someone claims to be making a browser plug in to block SJW websites

The hypocrisy!
The intellectual dishonesty!

The... fact that not everyone involved in this can be easily labeled or necessarily believes in what morons keep trying to group them into.
 
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News Comments > Op Ed
35. Re: Op Ed Sep 9, 2014, 17:23 Beamer
 
harlock wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 12:14:
Beamer wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 11:28:
ASeven wrote on Sep 9, 2014, 09:05:
A bit of SJW hypocrisy. The head of NeoGAF, one of the most prominent people to call every gamer a misogynist, has this to reply about a girl gamer that goes against his narrative.

Who are the real misogynists in this, one has to ask.

Dude.
Everyone gets angry when all gamers are painted by what one shithead does, yet you keep doing it about "SJWs?"

Verno and nin, and you guys applaud this. But, again, when one gamer sends death threats, it's all "oh, but it's just one guy, don't paint us in the same light!"
Doesn't that seem... weird?

This is why I thought Zoe Quinn's most recent "twitter leak" was pointless, because it was a small group of morons. But hey, let's keep telling ASeven how smart he is for finding other small groups of morons!

point is, nobody even has to make an effort to make you crusader guys look bad... you take care of that all on your own

I'm not particularly a crusader, and point is, no one has to make an effort to make you gamers look bad, you take care of that all on your own.
(See, it doesn't work like that.)

Can someone ask ASeven to explain to me what he thinks "intellectual dishonesty" means? Because he whines a lot about people who say "all gamers do this," then he says "all SJWs do this."
 
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