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News Comments > Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled
10. Re: Facebook Acquires Oculus, Oculus Rift Minecraft Cancelled Mar 25, 2014, 20:37 Beamer
 
NKD wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:32:
Minecraft already works on Oculus Rift, sorry Notch.

RIP Oculus Rift.

I catch any of you fuckers buying one of these from this point forward I will make sure you know no peace on the Blue's News comments section.
Notch points out that it already works, he just says they won't officially support it.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
47. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 20:30 Beamer
 
Tom wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:19:
Oh ok then, so VR is no more sophisticated than a TV or a refrigerator. Nevermind that these companies can't even get TVs right most of the time.

What did FB buy? They bought the people with the energy and potential to make something huge. Again, it comes down to Luckey Palmer and the team that formed around him.

OR doesn't have that many employees, and what employees it does have all had equity. If they had even 0.5% they just made a million bucks. And the ones with the energy and potential had much more than 0.5%.
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
55. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 20:11 Beamer
 
Julio wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 19:59:
Killswitch wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 19:49:
panbient wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 16:07:
... did you honestly compare a video game designer to astronauts? And not just any, but the only human beings to step foot on the moon?

While Aldrin and Armstrong were the first to walk on the moon, there has been a total of 12 astronauts who have walked on the lunar surface. Just thought I would clear up this common misconception.

If you believe they actually walked on the moon.

Danger! Danger!
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
44. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 20:10 Beamer
 
Tom wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 20:04:
A lot of very short-sighted thinking here. How many times has someone earned a fortune doing something lame (and usually at least moderately evil) and then looked for something fun to do with the billions in profit?

But how does FB make money off of OR?
They have no experience in hardware manufacturing, and neither does OR so they didn't really buy that.
They have no experience in screen manufacturing, and neither does OR so they didn't really buy that.

They bought something that essentially any tech company can reproduce easily, outside of the brand but the brand is only big to a small niche. If you put it in Best Buy next to a Samsung VR set nearly all consumers will buy the Samsung one.

What does OR do that makes them special?
1) They are writing the software/drivers for their headsets, but I'd be shocked if, after VR takes off, this holds true. They're basically making GLide. Great. Someone will make OpenGL or DirectX and allow devs to code to a standard that supports all VR sets. This is a huge dead end
2) They are willing to start the industry. Samsung and Sony didn't care, because it was so small and there was no demand. Sony has already been awakened, though we'll see if this is just lip service or a true attempt. If OR starts making money, you'd better believe Samsung will jump into it. And, after a few years, Planar and VideoSonic and Asus and ASOC will jump in on it and, much like how Sony and Samsung no longer make monitors, they'll leave VR sets because there will no longer be money to be made
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
42. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 20:06 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 19:59:
Seriously Beamer, you're our resident biz guy. I'm not being a dick about this, explain or lay our some scenarios here that show the potential upside that justifies this acquisition because I sure as shit don't see any - any positive ones at any rate.

Edit: Oh yeah, just saw that Wall St. isn't happy about this and FB lost almost 2 billion off it's valuation today.

I see no upside.
I expect VR sets, if they truly become a thing, to be like monitors, in that the software is standardized and the product commoditized. People buy based on weight and image quality, not brand and marketing.

If Facebook wants to start a VR world, or VR learning, or whatever, it makes some sense for them to control hardware at first, if it needs to be jumpstarted, but Oculus Rift seemed to be doing a fine job of that on their own. And, if they did a good enough job, Samsung, Sony and LG would all jump in, with larger R&D budgets, significantly larger marketing budgets, and the revenue streams that allow them to competitively price. Kind of like how Diamond and Creative mostly created the mp3 player market only to be forced out of it, OR basically faced the exact same future, in my opinion.

And still do. FB has next to no way to make $2b back on the hardware. And I don't think they have any software in the wing ready to go, or even 5 years out. And I don't think they needed to buy this to put their backing and capital behind it to get a properly installed userbase.

I honestly see no reason for this other than FB having huge stacks of cash and Zuckerberg thinking it's a really cool technology. But a public company can't purchase on a whim like that.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
35. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 19:47 Beamer
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 19:37:
Well, as I said in the other thread they owe their backers nothing beyond what was promised so as long as they get that, all is well on that front.

But $2B for this and $19B for Whatsapp leads me to believe that the management at FB is utterly insane at this point. It also leads me to believe that FB will crash and burn in the most spectacular manner sooner rather than later. It'll be a textbook study in business school upon how to not count one's chickens before they hatch.

Honestly, does anyone think the OR has a future now? I can see it now....every OR integrated with FB. Every OR owner being tracked in every game and getting FB alerts and ads all the time.

Do they really think this is a device capable of selling over 2 BILLION dollars? How many millions of headsets is that? How much grease going to developers to ensure they develop for the OR?

I really don't think Facebook bought this for integration. I think they bought it for diversity, and because Zuckerberg probably thinks it's cool.

Stop and think for a second about how your theories would play out. How could they integrate it with FB? It's a hardware device only. It doesn't have its own software. There's literally no way to integrate it.
Could Facebook be made in VR? Yes, but no one wants to look at 2D programs in VR, and there's no way to make FB not 2D.

So no, I don't think there's any kind of tracking coming, and I don't think there's any integration coming. This is Facebook trying to diversify.

Probably stupidly, and they've already reduced the value of the company just by being connected. In the short term.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
29. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 19:25 Beamer
 
Notch just claimed to cancel the Oculus Rift version of Minecraft.  
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
49. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 19:08 Beamer
 
Tanto Edge wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 19:04:
NKD wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 18:52:
Give zero fucks about Polydeux's opinion.

I wish the media would stop giving him airtime.

This is about to be the top "Popular Thread" here.
Of course he gets airtime. He gets nonstop clickthroughs.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
25. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 18:50 Beamer
 
mch wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 18:42:
So...does this mean Mark Zuckerberg is John Carmack's boss?

Carmack probably just made somewhere between $50mm and $200mm. Is anyone his boss?
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
13. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 25, 2014, 17:49 Beamer
 
Facebook bought Oculus?
Craziness!
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
43. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 16:08 Beamer
 
Panickd wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 13:54:
Beamer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:54:
Panickd wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:40:
Beamer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:21:
BitWraith wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 11:34:
Shit man, when did humanity become some cynical.

The guy is one of the great, classic game creators. Show some flipping respect.

George Lucas is an asshat, but he'll always have made Star Wars. In the same vein, Peter will always have been the head of Bullfrog.

I'd give you this argument up to and including Fable.
Many of the people here were saying the same things about him around Fable, because he jumped to a platform and they felt betrayed and were being bitter children.

In the long run, though, either they were right in that he had lost it or they were wrong to be infuriated that he left. Because his track record since, especially since Milo, has been pretty miserable.

I think the problem with Molyneux is that he was so good for so long. Nearly everything he touched was golden for a long while and now people expect that from him. And when he creates something that's just very good but doesn't rise to the level of greatness or (god forbid) fumbles something once in awhile because he was trying something different, he gets trashed ruthlessly. The funny thing is, I really don't think he gives a shit. If he cared about the haters he'd stop talking, pontificating and trying the new things.

What has he done since arguably Fable, arguably B&W, definitely Dungeon Keeper, that qualifies as "very good?"
I'd say nothing past Dungeon Keeper is "very good." B&W was interesting but flawed, the Fable series is alright but forgettable, same with The Movies, and everything else is gibberish.

That's nearly a 20 year streak of "just alright."

I would argue that the original B&W and The Movies qualify as "very good" despite being flawed. They were products that were trying something new and taking old genre ideas into new areas. Hell, Syndicate was flawed, but I still spent days of my life playing it. Ditto Powermonger. Since when does someone have to knock everything they try to do out of the park to be worthy of some respect for their past accomplishments? Hell, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin only went to the moon once! But no one is going up to Buzz Aldrin these days and going, "Yeah, but what have you done lately?"

I also haven't seen Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin go around asking for money, telling us how they were going to do the biggest space trip the world has ever seen, only to have it end up being them riding the toy rocket ship outside their local Quick-E-Mart.
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
6. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 25, 2014, 15:47 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 15:02:
Emulating those old games would be a huge win for Sony. Your move, MS.

What move?
Does anyone really care about any Xbox games? The 360, like the PS3, can't be emulated, and the Xbox has no truly classic games.

Though I'd argue the PS1/2 doesn't, either, outside of possibly the Final Fantasy games. Sorry, going back to that era is especially painful to me. Poor quality 3D graphics are much less tolerable than low-res sprites, and most of those games are defined less by what they do now and more by what their limitations were.

I was never a fan of the PS1/2 as it is, but the only game I'd really want to go back to might be the original Katamari Damacy. The handful of other games, like Shadow of the Colossus or Okami, have better versions out there on more powerful systems.

Virtually any game from that era I can think of that I may want to play either has a better version, better sequel, or similar game that built upon its mechanics in a much-improved way.
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
39. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 14:55 Beamer
 
jdreyer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 14:47:
Beamer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:21:
BitWraith wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 11:34:
Shit man, when did humanity become some cynical.

The guy is one of the great, classic game creators. Show some flipping respect.

George Lucas is an asshat, but he'll always have made Star Wars. In the same vein, Peter will always have been the head of Bullfrog.

I'd give you this argument up to and including Fable.
Many of the people here were saying the same things about him around Fable, because he jumped to a platform and they felt betrayed and were being bitter children.

In the long run, though, either they were right in that he had lost it or they were wrong to be infuriated that he left. Because his track record since, especially since Milo, has been pretty miserable.

Why was Fable 3 so bad? I bought it, played for an hour, and never went back, but couldn't really put my finger on it. Too linear? To console-ish?

Never played it. Loved the setting, but had no reason. I played Fable 1 for about an hour or 3. Something about wandering from one square into another drove me insane.
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
35. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 14:06 Beamer
 
Prez wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 13:40:
Sepharo wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:48:
Molyneux can be a legendary game designer and a total whack job at the same time. Doesn't have to be one or the other.

Yep. As impressive as his past is, at some point it becomes sort of "what have you done for me lately". I'll leave it for others to debate whether that's fair, but it is practically inarguable that his recent history is one of way over-promising and way, way, WAY under-delivering. That will understandably earn him some scorn regardless of what his resume says.

Yup. I'm a guy that defends Romero, of all people, because Romero really hasn't done any harm outside of Daikatana. His other games haven't really been aimed at us and he hasn't claimed otherwise.

Molyneux lost me first with Milo then with Cube and Godus, two of which he claimed would be for hardcore gamers and ended up not at all being what they were claimed to be.
 
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News Comments > Evening Interviews
7. Re: Evening Interviews Mar 25, 2014, 13:29 Beamer
 
Topic A: People ranting about the lack of innovation
Topic B: Exact same people mocking Levine for saying he wants to innovate
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
27. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 12:54 Beamer
 
Panickd wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:40:
Beamer wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:21:
BitWraith wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 11:34:
Shit man, when did humanity become some cynical.

The guy is one of the great, classic game creators. Show some flipping respect.

George Lucas is an asshat, but he'll always have made Star Wars. In the same vein, Peter will always have been the head of Bullfrog.

I'd give you this argument up to and including Fable.
Many of the people here were saying the same things about him around Fable, because he jumped to a platform and they felt betrayed and were being bitter children.

In the long run, though, either they were right in that he had lost it or they were wrong to be infuriated that he left. Because his track record since, especially since Milo, has been pretty miserable.

I think the problem with Molyneux is that he was so good for so long. Nearly everything he touched was golden for a long while and now people expect that from him. And when he creates something that's just very good but doesn't rise to the level of greatness or (god forbid) fumbles something once in awhile because he was trying something different, he gets trashed ruthlessly. The funny thing is, I really don't think he gives a shit. If he cared about the haters he'd stop talking, pontificating and trying the new things.

What has he done since arguably Fable, arguably B&W, definitely Dungeon Keeper, that qualifies as "very good?"
I'd say nothing past Dungeon Keeper is "very good." B&W was interesting but flawed, the Fable series is alright but forgettable, same with The Movies, and everything else is gibberish.

That's nearly a 20 year streak of "just alright."
 
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - BioShock Infinite: Burial at Sea Episode Two
9. Re: Ships Ahoy - BioShock Infinite: Burial at Sea Episode Two Mar 25, 2014, 12:23 Beamer
 
nin wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 12:08:
Bundy wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 11:55:
Creston wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 11:25:
BioShock fans are going to plotz.

They're going to what now?

I didn't want to say anything cause i was embarrassed i didn't know what that meant either.

Is it one of those secret jewish words I don't know?

Not that secret if you grew up in or around NYC.
When I briefly moved to the midwest I realized how much Yiddish slang was in my vocabulary. Then I judged people from the midwest for not knowing any jewish people.
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
21. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 12:21 Beamer
 
BitWraith wrote on Mar 25, 2014, 11:34:
Shit man, when did humanity become some cynical.

The guy is one of the great, classic game creators. Show some flipping respect.

George Lucas is an asshat, but he'll always have made Star Wars. In the same vein, Peter will always have been the head of Bullfrog.

I'd give you this argument up to and including Fable.
Many of the people here were saying the same things about him around Fable, because he jumped to a platform and they felt betrayed and were being bitter children.

In the long run, though, either they were right in that he had lost it or they were wrong to be infuriated that he left. Because his track record since, especially since Milo, has been pretty miserable.
 
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News Comments > Molyneux: Indie Revival "Won't Last"
9. Re: Molyneux: Indie Revival Mar 25, 2014, 10:25 Beamer
 
If we see a crash of sorts, it'd be on mobile, where discovery is impossible and everything is full of mictotrandactions (thank you, ridiculous fishing, for not being so.) PC is easier to find games and more complete with purchase. As such, I'd imagine it has fewer investors rushing to it as the profit ceiling is much lower.  
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News Comments > Evening Tech Bits
6. Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 24, 2014, 21:33 Beamer
 
Kosumo wrote on Mar 24, 2014, 21:29:
LittleMe wrote on Mar 24, 2014, 20:32:
The socialist central banks are vastly worse.


I don't get what this means, could you explain more?

What is "socialist central banks"?

danger!
 
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