Grounded wrote on Jun 17, 2010, 19:33:

While I really want to see this be a good game, as I am a fan of the WH40K setting, I have my doubts it would successfully translate into a MMORPG.

I can see the Character Selection Screen now…

CHOOSE YOUR CLASS

# Space Marine (Ultramarine)

# Space Marine (Space Wolf)

# Space Marine (Blood Angel)

# Space Marine (Dark Angel)

# Space Marine (Other)

# Psyker (*)

# Xenos (You will be purged)


* - Note: Psykers can never advance past Level 1, because as soon as you use your powers, you will either be consumed by a demon from the warp, captured and sacrificed to feed the Emperor on the Golden Throne, or spontaneously explode.

BINGO

This trailer is an insult to Warhammer 40k. The Warhammer 40k universe is a dark, gritty, and grimy landscape, but in this trailer it looks like a fucking cartoon. All this looks like so far is space marine expansion pack to Warhammer Online.

I just went from excited about the prospect of a Warhammer 40k MMO to dreading it.

Um, that's what I was talking about. Supreme Commander had a nice centralized replay sharing system on GPGnet on day 1. Likewise, from this headline it looks like SCII will not have that feature.

And what's up with the insults at me? Did I insult SCII or Blizzard? No, I just said I wouldn't buy the game until they had it implemented. I happen to like replays a lot and I would buy SCII for a nice replay sharing system.

Xero wrote on Jun 14, 2010, 17:34:
I have to say, as addicted to the beta as I was, when it ended, I was left feeling at odds end. The state they left the beta in right before it ended was sort of non-Blizzard like.

Did the beta allow you to watch replays from games played in previous versions? I hope it did, but I don't see how they could make something like that happen easily.

They see all the folks watching streams and youtube casts of games, and they don't think "great fan-base" but rather "lost revenue". Of course, since they are an amoral profit machine what would anyone expect?

Supreme Commander has a nice replay system and it worked on day 1. I might buy SCII when the replay system works.

Since 1994, aside from the not nearly as good TFTD, NOTHING has been done to recapture the original X-COM design in a more modern engine.

I'm saying I hope SWTOR is out before Cataclysm. If Blizzard doesn't make the kind of improvements I would like to see by then I'll have another MMO to play. After 5 years I'm really getting tired of WOW in general.

I wonder if the crowd will cheer all over again when they announce they will be splitting Diablo 3 into 3 iterations so their fans can buy one game for the price of 3!

$150? That's nearly enough to buy StarCraft 2, StarCraft 2: 2, and StarCraft 2: 3.

MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on May 3, 2010, 19:23:
Coming from somebody who has played the beta, this game is not worth $60, or enduring whatever online-only hassles are going to be attached to it.

It's really not worthy of being broken up over 3-4 years and paying at least $180 total for the 'complete' game.

I will be boycotting this, along with a few other people I know. This way, Blizzard will only make a few billion dollars off this trash!

kxmode wrote on May 3, 2010, 21:12:

PHJF wrote on May 3, 2010, 20:41:
Ever since I got beta access ~month ago I haven't touched it after the first few games.

Suffice it to say if you've never liked RTS multiplay SC2 won't change your mind. I'm sure it will have a thriving tower defense community, though.

Me too. This isn't like StarCraft 1. There's literally a global community of really awesome RTS players, who've had over 10 years to practice. It's takes about 10,000 hours to become REALLY good at something. 10K hours equals about 3 hours a day for 10 years (10,000 / (365 x 10) = 2.73972603).

Malcolm Gladwell said it best, "What's really interesting about this 10,000-hour rule is that it applies virtually everywhere. You can't become a chess grand master unless you spend 10,000 hours on practice."

StarCraft 2 is coming out about 12 years after the release of the first game. You KNOW there's thousands, if not millions who have hit this 10k rule. And the sad fact is most of them were in the beta. That's why I stopped playing Beta after 5 or 6 matches.

As for the MP difference, isn't that why they have the whole platinum league, gold league, silver league, tin league, shitty mud league thing going on?

InBlack wrote on May 3, 2010, 10:50:
Hmmm NeoGAF's early early preview made me feel like the game will have potential. But I have a nagging feeling that it will be very very simple. (Compared to the original)

The fact that you have to gather "Elerium" and take "Snapshots" of corpses to gather evidence is a far cry from the meat and bones of the strategic & research elements of the original game.

Hopeful? Not really

xXBatmanXx wrote on Apr 28, 2010, 11:39:

Hot Out of China’s Knock-Off Oven- iPad Clones

I had one - they are crap.

meeting the old crew was just... crap. Like some crap sitcom when they have some celebrity cameo. Especially when the 3 of them are slouching on the bridge trying way too hard to look cool or whatever.

Heavy micro-management is not an inherently skill based mechanism so I'm not sure why you would confuse Starcraft with something that bucks any trends. If anything it's a heavily streamlined game in almost every aspect. What sets Starcraft apart from other RTS games is that it still is essentially a more complex version of rock, paper, scissors while other franchises have tried newer approaches(most of them have failed) or gone into smaller squad based strategy.