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News Comments > Kojima to Leave Konami After The Phantom Pain?
6. Re: Kojima to Leave Konami After The Phantom Pain? Mar 21, 2015, 00:34 Ecthelion
 
Creston wrote on Mar 20, 2015, 17:51:
Phantom Pain was what I felt after seeing Episode 1 for the first time...
So did Darth Maul. Flush
 
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News Comments > New METAL GEAR SOLID Game Plans
11. Re: New METAL GEAR SOLID Game Plans Mar 20, 2015, 16:01 Ecthelion
 
harlock wrote on Mar 20, 2015, 12:39:
bhcompy wrote on Mar 20, 2015, 10:36:
Keep in mind that Kojima is big in Japan first, US second. For Sony, Konami, and every other Japanese company that's invested heavily in Kojima specifically, that's a huge part of it.

yeh but hes probably pretty big everywhere.. i get that - im just saying that personally i dont think he's much of a rock star... just another japanese game dev from the great tradition of ultra-weird japanese stuff, which is not as big as it used to be imo

like the Suka guy.. i think theres a whole culture of rock star game devs in japan thats still going strong, unlike the USA where its just a legacy phenomena from the 90s
I guess you mean Suda51? He is WAY more into "ultra-weird Japanese stuff" than Kojima. If you wanted to put it into sexual terms, Suda51 is 50 Shades of Grey and Kojima is all missionary. Ugh, I feel dirty for even mentioning that book.

In any case, having played all the MGS games and most of Suda51's games, there is no comparison in the weirdness factor. Suda51 made Shadows of the Damned, where you walk on a giant dream/hell version of your girlfriend lying down, including walking up over her boobs. The weirdest thing Kojima did was the ending parts of MGS2, which I'll grant is weird, but it was the only time he went off the deep end. Oh, and adding the boob shake easter egg to MGS4 (best use of controller gyroscopes ever). Suda51 does weird shit in every damn game he makes.


As for myself, I'm an admitted MGS fan, and I do prefer them to Splinter Cell (although I did enjoy the first 4 SC games). GZ is definitely a new direction for the series and TPP will only build on it.

I know Konami intends to make more Metal Gear games with or without Kojima's involvement, and he's gotten tired of the franchise. He was only marginally involved in Metal Gear Rising (which was a fantastically fun ninja sword spin off from MGS, a bit like Bayonetta). More of those types of games could be interesting. I certainly hope that the main series itself can be retired with Kojima's involvement, and I think TPP is the right way to do it.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
12. Re: Out of the Blue Mar 15, 2015, 15:10 Ecthelion
 
Orogogus wrote on Mar 14, 2015, 23:50:
I think the way nostalgia works is that people expect the shows they grew up with to remain targeted at their generation. The original Transformers was a very dumb cartoon, but people get offended when the new shows are still targeted towards grade schoolers instead of 30- and 40-somethings.
Agreed, and I think it applies to Star Wars as well. Valid points can be made about the boring galactic politics in the prequels, but overall they are kids movies as the franchise always was. Yoda is a puppet with humorous grammar for crying out loud. That doesn't make the original trilogy any less great, but it never set out to be heady sci-fi for grown ups. Those of us who enjoy it are adults in touch with our inner child.

As far as sanitation goes, it's pretty funny to read a sanitation worker call anything he or she encounters on the job as "gross". That job is gross 8 hours a day.
 
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News Comments > Evening Legal Briefs
24. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Mar 6, 2015, 16:49 Ecthelion
 
Axis wrote on Mar 6, 2015, 14:15:
Let illegals in
I "love" it when people use this term.
1. "Illegal" is an adjective, not a noun.
2. Calling people "illegals" makes it pretty easy to forget they're humans, which is of course why extremist conservatives love using the term. Who cares what happens to "illegals"?
3. NOBODY is talking about "letting illegals in". That would be political suicide. Many of the Democrats, including the President, are pushing for amnesty for immigrants ALREADY IN THE USA. That's not letting more people in. But hey, don't let facts cloud the discussion here. And hell, they're kids that are eligible for amnesty, who had no say in their parents' decision to come here illegally.
4. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to be so upset about illegal immigrants when that's exactly what the European colonists were? I'm pretty sure the Native Americans "owned" the land making up the USA before the Pilgrims et al landed.

I was raised Republican and didn't form my own views until after college, but thankfully I have been fortunate enough to encounter moderate Conservatives AND Liberals (including my parents), and it's a shame they're aren't more of them on both sides of the fence. And yes, in many ways the political parties are two sides of the same coin, which is why I never call myself a Democrat.

As far as Bush bashing goes, yes it was pretty intense, but calling Bush a stupid redneck is a lot less caustic than calling Obama a Muslim, non-American, and all the racist stuff that's often included. I disagree with him on many topics, but it's pretty incredible that the guy just can't win no matter what he does. He can drop a million bombs on suspected ISIS terrorists and he's still "soft on terrorism". I'd love to see what Ann Coulter and her ilk would say about a truly "liberal" president who was soft on terror and would refuse to incur any collateral damage, and try to appease ISIS through diplomacy and ransom money.

As far as Net Neutrality goes, it's like Obamacare. It's far from perfect, but it's a damn sight better than what we had before. All those people complaining about Obamacare must not have noticed how shitty the American Healthcare system has been for many years now (and which admittedly Obamacare only fixes a little bit of). Coverage exceptions for pre-existing conditions should have been illegal from day one. I work in Healthcare and get to see the lack of ISP competition on a daily basis in my role at work. The problems in both environments are pretty easy to see.

Also, a quick note on "destroying the foundation of marriage", since that was mentioned. I am a heterosexual male married to a heterosexual female, and I have a daughter as a result of that relationship. I completely fail to see how homosexual couples getting married in any way, shape, or form diminishes the meaning of my marriage. If that's all it takes to "destroy the foundation of marriage", it's in more trouble than I thought. Other hetero couples getting divorced does not diminish my marriage, so why would homosexual couples getting married do so? I just don't see the logic here. If two people love each other, they should be able to get married. Period.

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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
11. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 6, 2015, 14:00 Ecthelion
 
CrimsonPaw wrote on Mar 6, 2015, 12:21:
Ecthelion wrote on Mar 6, 2015, 10:10:
nin wrote on Mar 6, 2015, 09:54:
Second Son was inFAMOUS 3, so this would be 4 by my count. Anyway, I've enjoyed all the inFAMOUS games so far and First Light added some nice things to the Second Son formula. Even though it became a free PS+ game this January, I don't regret for a second buying it when it came out last August. Probably the best $15 I ever spent on a game.

I'd love to see a new Sly Cooper game but I think Sucker Punch is more interested in big-budget open world games now. Not that this is a bad thing.
I really enjoyed 1 and 2, but for some reason I wasn't nearly as enamored with Second Son as those others. I don't know if it's because with Cole there was electricity everywhere or because he only had the electric ability. Regardless, I'm intrigued to see what could come of it.
You should try First Light. It's a tad on the short side but it only has one power, Neon. And it's damn pretty, too. You can't beat it for $15.

Verno wrote on Mar 6, 2015, 13:06:
I loved Second Son, gameplay was butter smooth if you got handy with all of the power sets. The first few games were fun but flawed and had some very frustrating mission designs. Second Son was the first game where everything just flowed nicely, my only beef was that I beat it in 12 hours and wanted more, particularly since getting Concrete happens so late in the game.
Agreed. Even if you're going for 100% completion, there isn't much fighting to do after finishing the story, so the Concrete powers are largely wasted. The game would have benefited from some combat arenas so you could at least test the Concrete powers out in large-scale combat. First Light had arenas, and it was better for it.
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
2. Re: Morning Consolidation Mar 6, 2015, 10:10 Ecthelion
 
nin wrote on Mar 6, 2015, 09:54:
Is Sucker Punch working on inFAMOUS 3?

God I hope so! They'd be crazy not to.

Second Son was inFAMOUS 3, so this would be 4 by my count. Anyway, I've enjoyed all the inFAMOUS games so far and First Light added some nice things to the Second Son formula. Even though it became a free PS+ game this January, I don't regret for a second buying it when it came out last August. Probably the best $15 I ever spent on a game.

I'd love to see a new Sly Cooper game but I think Sucker Punch is more interested in big-budget open world games now. Not that this is a bad thing.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
17. Re: Into the Black Mar 5, 2015, 14:03 Ecthelion
 
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Mar 5, 2015, 12:22:
As far as Babylon 5 goes, you should also keep in mind season 1 basically had a budget of about 3 dollars. After that they got rolling and got some actual funding. Not a LOT more, but enough that the effects and props weren't completely embarassing.

Babylon 5 is one of my favorite shows, all time, but yes, it did take some time to really get rolling.

*EDIT* Babylon 5 vs Firefly isn't really a fair comparison, completely different scope and flavor, in my opinion. Apples and Bananas, etc.
I've been looking for a good sci-fi show to get into. I'm mostly a Trekkie (TOS, TNG, and DS9 primarily but I can tolerate VOY and ENT to an extent) but a big Star Wars fan as well (haven't seen Rebels yet, but I enjoyed Clone Wars once it got going). I wrote off both Stargate and Firefly because of "friends" talking them up too much. Stargate seemed to have too much of a military vibe going for it, which is not interesting to me, and Firefly seemed to be overhyped and I'm sick of hearing people tell me some character on the show is a better Han Solo than Han Solo. No, sorry, try again.

Anyway, I really liked Farscape for its quirkiness and character development, and low budgets don't worry me. I also enjoyed BSG but it got kind of dumb towards the end and I thought the "sleeper Cylons" plot twist was stupid and ruined several good characters. Do I sound like the kind of person who would like Babylon 5? I keep meaning to check it out but something always distracts me from starting it.
 
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News Comments > Wolfenstein: The Old Blood Announced
26. Re: Wolfenstein: The Old Blood Announced Mar 5, 2015, 11:37 Ecthelion
 
I'm halfway through New Order now (which seems like a long game compared to most of the current crop of games), and it is indeed great. I never played the last Wolfenstein game but it's a little weird to hear BJ talk a bit like a redneck. I guess that makes sense, but still. Also, why does his picture in the main menu look so little like his character model?

The gameplay is great, and I'm really enjoying it. I'm still waiting to hear Blue Monday while I'm killing Nazis though, is there something wrong with my copy of the game? Flush

I'm definitely excited about this. If there's one thing I'd like to see changed, it's the removal of the collectibles. Why does every game need collectibles now? It bugs the hell out of OCD gamers like me...
 
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News Comments > METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN in September
5. Re: METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN in September Mar 5, 2015, 11:30 Ecthelion
 
Creston wrote on Mar 4, 2015, 17:37:
The all caps let you know it's a serious title.

So was Ground Zeroes any good? I thought that was the really short sort of sub-game thing?
It depends. I loved it, but I'm a MGS fan. If you can get it for a cheap price, it's worth a look.

The short length was exaggerated (I suspect the same is true of The Order 1886 but I haven't played it), it's a stealth game and MOST gamers would approach it slowly and methodically. The main mission itself can be completed fairly quickly but there's a lot more to the game, including collectibles with "tape recorded" audio backstory. There are also side missions you can do on the same map with different objectives. If you want to experience all the side content, the game is a good value. I know I got my money's worth out of it.

It probably should have been about $10 cheaper at release, but what do I know. The price didn't bother me but it would have cut down on the complaints probably... who am I kidding, this is the Entitled Bitching Era (TM); there would have been complaints if the game gave out blowjobs.
 
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News Comments > Resident Evil Revelations 2 Local Co-op Mod
6. Re: Resident Evil 2 Local Co-op Mod Mar 1, 2015, 14:50 Ecthelion
 
HorrorScope wrote on Mar 1, 2015, 11:36:
Jerykk wrote on Mar 1, 2015, 06:32:
HorrorScope wrote on Feb 28, 2015, 13:40:
One knew this was coming, so is online possible?

With this mod is this coop for the main game?

Yes, online co-op works fine. FOr some reason, publishers seem to think that PC gamers have no interest in local co-op so they often cut said feature from PC ports to reduce costs. I'm sure that was the case here and, as this mod proves, re-enabling the feature is relatively trivial. Capcom will most likely restore local co-op in a future patch.

Are you sure, have you done it?

This game has confused me to hell and back with the coop.

Reading the main marketing description they use the word Assistive Coop, 1 player can switch between the two characters.

Reviews only talk about Local Coop Campaign. (Pc now via a 3rd party mod)

No talk about online coop.

Steam has no mention of coop anymore, anywhere.

I've read when the last episode is released Raid Online Coop will be available.

Just sayin...
You're correct, RAID mode online co-op will be enabled by a patch when the final episode comes out. For some dumb reason, the campaign is only available to do solo or local co-op. I'd love to play through the campaign with my RE fanatic buddy, but instead we're stuck with only RAID mode, like RE Revelations 1.

For those who don't know, RAID mode is a gameplay type where you and an optional partner fight off incoming enemies. It's fun but it would be nice to play the campaign in co-op also.

The marketing on this game is really confusing no matter what platform you're purchasing. Capcom could have made things a lot simpler.
 
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News Comments > Into the Black
10. Re: Into the Black Feb 28, 2015, 09:07 Ecthelion
 
What a classy guy. I always enjoyed seeing him in anything, whether it was Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Simpsons, Star Trek of course, etc.

We watched Marge vs the Monorail last night in tribute. I saw someone post it earlier, but it is a truly fitting quote: "And the cosmic ballet goes on."
 
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News Comments > Resident Evil 2 Co-op Apology
8. Re: Resident Evil 2 Co-op Apology Feb 27, 2015, 13:32 Ecthelion
 
HorrorScope wrote on Feb 27, 2015, 12:51:
Wasn't there an online coop portion to initially?
Task wrote on Feb 27, 2015, 10:18:
I'm assuming people thought it would be co-op over network on separate screens.
All platforms for RER2 (possibly not the Vita version though) will include online co-op for RAID mode only (not the story campaigns). This will be enabled by a patch when the final episode and retail version release in mid-March.

The fact that this weird episodic release is causing so much confusion makes me question why Capcom decided to release the game this way. I guess I like the idea of being able to buy the game in 4 parts and only pay for what I want to play, on the surface, but I think anyone actually interested in the game wants the whole experience (I know I do). It seems like the only purpose this serves is to cause product confusion. Maybe I'm not the target audience, since I always wait for the game to be finished before starting on episodic games (I did not do so with Half Life 2, which of course isn't even finished). But I understand the idea behind Telltale Games releasing episodes: so that people can enjoy the game before it's done. But for RER2, which is releasing over only a 4-week period, what's the point?

Anyway, I'm glad to see Capcom addressing the complaints, although I do think it's unfair that many people gave the game 1 star reviews on Steam because of this one omission that very few people would have actually used. Once again, gamers (particularly PC gamers) look like a bunch of entitled whiners. At least Capcom is considering patching local co-op into the game.
 
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News Comments > Ship Ahoy - Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty
4. Re: Ship Ahoy - Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty Feb 26, 2015, 07:54 Ecthelion
 
Lorcin wrote on Feb 25, 2015, 23:15:
Just realized something btw - oddworld are like linkin park or arctic monkeys. Their first release was a edgy representation of how their life sucked (oddworld had their mouths stitched shut, linkin park raged at parents, monkeys slagged the record industry etc etc etc).

Trouble is - then they got money. The problems which made them relate-able weren't really problems any more and they lost the edge which made them popular.

10/15 years later and these guys are desperately clinging to the past, reissuing stuff which might as well have a sticker saying "Remember me? I was cool when you were younger. LOOOOOVVVVEEE MEEEE AGAIN"
Interesting analogy. Arctic Monkeys have only been releasing albums over 7 years, and in my opinion each one is better than the last (and their first was very good, so that's saying something). They may not be "cool" anymore, but AM is a damned good album. They are certainly still popular (maybe not with the fickle teens though), and they're still winning awards left and right.

Linkin Park may be a fair analogy, but I have to take issue with the Arctic Monkeys one.
 
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News Comments > Resident Evil Revelations 2 Released; Missing Co-op Complaints
8. Re: Resident Evil Revelations 2 Released; Missing Co-op Complaints Feb 25, 2015, 13:58 Ecthelion
 
The headline is a little misleading. It's more accurate to say "OFFLINE co-op support is not included in the Windows edition". True, co-op support of any kind is not included at launch, but online co-op will be added when the final episode releases in 3 weeks. That is true across all platforms; the console versions do not have online co-op yet either. I do agree that it's unfair to advertise offline co-op for the Windows version since that will never be included (unless they pull a Xbox One about-face). However it's a bit silly to complain about the lack of online co-op at launch, when it was mentioned early on in interviews that it would be coming with a patch. I see many people bitching about this on Steam... you might as well complain that all 4 episodes weren't available at launch. Anyway, it's obvious that the Steam advertising uses generic multiplatform bullet points for the features and that's why offline co-op was listed, but putting a little note below that about the PC version is lazy. They should have modified the description to remove the offline co-op mention altogether.

To further confuse matters, I'm sure some gamers mistakenly think online co-op is coming for the campaign. That is not true for ANY version of the game; the console versions have local co-op for the campaign and RAID mode, and both PC and console versions will add online co-op for RAID mode only with a patch.

I'm not sure why Capcom made things so confusing... they should have enabled online co-op for all modes. I actually didn't know the PC versions of RE5 and RE6 had local split-screen campaign co-op. I played both of them in online co-op but having more options is always good.
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
18. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 23, 2015, 20:29 Ecthelion
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 23, 2015, 17:17:
The Lego Movie not getting even a nomination was terrible. I saw 3 of the 5 nominees, and Lego Movie was their equal or better.

I guess it doesn't matter too much. Practically everything Lord and Miller do turns to gold. I've become a huge fan, and can't wait to see what these guys do next.
I haven't seen Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, but I agree based on their other 3 directed movies. They know how to get that extremely difficult mix of humor and heart just right.

And Lego Movie DID get nominated, for best song. I haven't seen any of the other Best Song movies, but that song, like it or not, certainly sticks in your head. I dare anyone not to listen to it and think of the movie (if you've seen it of course).

Anyway, looking forward to more movies from Lord and Miller.
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
24. Re: Morning Consolidation Feb 19, 2015, 19:12 Ecthelion
 
Suppa7 wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 17:11:
Shineyguy wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 14:56:
@suppa

Even at that, I'm 32, have been gaming all my life and personally am having a riot playing Dying Light on PC with my friends.

I have an Xbox One, and use it almost every night. Granted I'm not always gaming (YouTube consumption takes up most of the time, with some Netflix and a little TV), but I enjoy Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Master Chief Collection, and Dead Rising 3.

That just means you're too easily pleased. Every generation has its element of poor taste, welcome to the poor taste section of our generation! If you like everything, that means your brain can't see the problems within a videogame, that's not something to be ashamed of but criticism is necessary. The gaming industry releases enough shoddy rushed games as it is.
Actually if you frequent the Playstation Blog, you will see tons of complaining about indie games (and straight complaining in general), and it's obvious the complainers are younger. Apparently the younger gamers only want AAA games on PS4, not a mix of AAA and indie games, and they talk like indie=trash. So the younger generation is indeed discerning, but in a very superficial way.

I see some of the older generations (including mine, I'm 34 and grew up playing 80's and 90's games on PC) go too far the other way, and criticize everything just for being new. I prefer a more balanced approach myself. Not all those old games were great, and not all newer games are terrible.
 
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News Comments > Morning Consolidation
20. Re: Morning Consolidation Feb 19, 2015, 15:46 Ecthelion
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 14:52:
Creston wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 12:06:
a mere 30MB day one patch? I must be dreaming. Kudos, good developer.


Yeah, I had to click on the story to make sure it wasn't a typo: 30 GB patch.

I'm not sure if you're actually saying the patch is 30GB, but the article states that the patch is 30MB, on top of the game install itself which is 31GB. So if you buy the game on disc, you only have to download 30MB, which is indeed rare these days.

Tipsy McStagger wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 11:15:
Verno wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 11:06:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 11:03:
True gamers own all systems and play the games they want to on them. Like for instance, I'm playing destiny with my xim4 adapter on my PS4.

I don't know what a "true gamer" is but this gamer barely has enough time for one platform, let alone 5

I haven't seen anything that made me want to own an Xbox, Vita or etc which doesn't help.

Well, my xbox one just sits collecting dust, I've played a total of 10 minutes of Ryse on it before never touching it again. I made the mistake thinking that xbone would actually have exclusive titles for it within the first year that I actually wanted to play. (impulse buy, didn't look into it before hand.)
Shineyguy wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 14:56:
@suppa

Even at that, I'm 32, have been gaming all my life and personally am having a riot playing Dying Light on PC with my friends.

I have an Xbox One, and use it almost every night. Granted I'm not always gaming (YouTube consumption takes up most of the time, with some Netflix and a little TV), but I enjoy Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Master Chief Collection, and Dead Rising 3.
Since I am a big Insomniac fan (playing the entire Ratchet and Clank series on PS3 being new to the series was probably the most fun I've had gaming in the past 5 years), I knew I would get a XBox One for Sunset Overdrive eventually. The Holiday price drop on the Xbox One pushed me over the edge and I finally gave in. My Xbox came with Ryse, which is fun but not stellar. I never really got into Halo when it came out, so I grabbed the Collection too to make sure I wasn't getting a console for only one game.:P From the little I've played of Dead Rising 3, it seems pretty good, but of course that's on PC now. But Sunset Overdrive is the clear highlight, and easily the best game on Xbox IMO. I doubt it's a system seller, but it's the most fun I've ever had with an open-world game, and I love open-world games. It's a game where you can see the developers clearly had tons of fun making it, and it never takes itself seriously at all. The dialog and characters are very funny, and the weapons and gameplay is fun and tight. From what I have read, Insomniac had the game idea and approached Microsoft with the idea (not sure why, they were Sony-exclusive before). Hopefully they will eventually open the game up to more platforms if their agreement with Microsoft does not limit that.

I obviously have not made the best investment in gaming platforms since I clearly don't have enough time to play my PS3/4/WiiU/XboxOne/3DS/Vita every day, but I typically play at least one of them daily. If there weren't exclusive games I'd only need one console and one handheld, but that's not the world we live in sadly.

Verno wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 11:06:
Tipsy McStagger wrote on Feb 19, 2015, 11:03:
True gamers own all systems and play the games they want to on them. Like for instance, I'm playing destiny with my xim4 adapter on my PS4.

I don't know what a "true gamer" is but this gamer barely has enough time for one platform, let alone 5

I haven't seen anything that made me want to own an Xbox, Vita or etc which doesn't help.
I really love my Vita, I'm not sure if I would recommend it. Sony has mostly abandoned it for games, but it still gets a lot of indie games that are fun. So many small games (like platformers) are really suited to a portable console; Rogue Legacy rocks on it. There are also a few really great "AAA" games from before Sony abandoned new games on it, such as Gravity Rush and Uncharted Golden Abyss. There are more depending on your tastes. I don't like racing games so that narrows it down, but I do love many of the indie games it has.
 
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News Comments > PC Assassin's Creed Rogue Next Month
24. Re: PC Assassin's Creed Rogue Next Month Feb 7, 2015, 01:08 Ecthelion
 
Creston wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 22:57:
I think they killed off Desmond because so many people bitched about him, and I have to say I quite liked his story. I just wished it hadn't been so forced on you every time. Had the whole Desmond thing been something optional it would have been perfect.
I liked Desmond as a character, but I hated the parts where you did the climbing stuff as him. At least AC3 did a bit more with letting you get into combat with him, but then it frustrated me by sending me off to look for the stuff left behind by the progenitors or whatever. There was no direction for that part and it was annoying. Usually I just wanted to get back to playing in the Animus.

Anyway, hopefully I didn't talk up the tough moment in Rogue too much, it basically just involves a character/storyline from a previous game. It's definitely a tough moment, but maybe that was just me.
 
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News Comments > PC Assassin's Creed Rogue Next Month
20. Re: PC Assassin's Creed Rogue Next Month Feb 6, 2015, 14:40 Ecthelion
 
CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 13:33:
Ecthelion wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 09:08:
The best part of the game is honestly the main character. I found Shay more believable than past protagonists

Sounds good though I have to say that I really liked badass Kenway. I also liked Haytham (the short part in AC3) and Ezio, indifferent about Altair but Connor was horrible. They should have portrayed him as a proud American native but instead he was like a whiny little bitch all game long.
Haytham shows up again in Rogue, unfortunately he doesn't show up until near the end of the game. He was one of my favorite characters as well. Rogue ties up the loose ends of Black Flag and AC3 really well in my opinion.

What can I say, I'm one of the 5 people who liked Connor. Everyone hates whiny bitches, but if you went through what Connor did, you probably would be one too. I had no problem with the portrayal of his early life, but I do think the game would have benefited from showing him grow more as a character once he became an assassin and leader.

CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 13:33:
... and this time around most of the targets you assassinate are assholes that deserved it (which is often not the case), with one HUGE exception that you'll probably have mixed feelings about.

Looking at the series as a whole, there has always been this underlying morality thing where it's never crystal clear whether the Assassins or the Templars are the good guys or the bad guys. Altair has also had his fair share of kills where it made you wonder if you did the right thing (not that you ever had a choice if you wanted to progress the main plot).
I actually enjoyed the "two sides to every story" bits that you got from the Animus-style deathbed talks sometimes.
Nothing wrong with killing real assholes for a change, of course, but I hope they won't totally drop the shades of gray thing in favor of a black/white scheme.
Rogue definitely has shades of gray. Trust me, the big exception to the "killing assholes" thing I mentioned will have you wishing there was another way to progress the story. It was easily the toughest thing I have ever had to do in the series, emotionally and morally.

Also, the event that makes Shay turn to the Templars is really impressive, and one of those "oh shit, that would make ANYONE question their actions" moments.

CJ_Parker wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 13:33:
It was fun to play a Templar for a change, and the modern-day story was slightly less stupid than Black Flag's (which was already a big improvement over the AC1-3 Desmond conspiracy-theory bullshit that a 5th grader could have written). I definitely recommend it.

Yep, the Desmond Miles plot was a pretty wild mix of Illuminati and conspiracy theory stuff but for a video game plot, I still thought it was kinda fun most of the time. Besides operating underground from that Italian villa had a certain style and atmosphere. Also loved Shaun that nerdy nutter. Always good for a laugh.
I was definitely slightly saddened to see DM (and as always excellent Nolan North) exit the stage for good.
And did Black Flag even have a real world story? New Abstergo employee goes to work, plays around with the Kenway-Animus and snoops around some old and future plans of the company. End of story. Right?
Seems like Ubi did not have much of a plan past DM except killing him off and... yes... and what?

Anyway, thanks for the impressions. I'm definitely looking forward to Rogue some time next year. Going to play Rogue first, then Unity.
Rogue is pretty much the same as Black Flag in terms of real world modern story. It's pretty basic. I dunno if Ubisoft saved the next big plot event for Unity, since I haven't gotten far in it yet, but I am glad to have the weird modern plot take a little break.

Also, the last mission in Rogue ties into the first mission in Unity. You get to experience the same event from two different perspectives, and it's pretty cool. I was also very impressed by how well the PS3 showed off the environment in the last mission (it's a very recognizable landmark that I have actually visited in person so that was very cool for me); it should be amazing on PC.
 
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18. Re: PC Assassin's Creed Rogue Next Month Feb 6, 2015, 13:13 Ecthelion
 
Creston wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 10:46:
Ecthelion wrote on Feb 6, 2015, 09:08:
I don't know about the PC port, but I enjoyed Rogue on my PS3. Hopefully the port will be decent.

Anyway, Rogue slightly improves on the ship combat. Ships can now board you, but I haven't figured out the mechanics involved. From what I can tell, only Hunters can board you, and only if you actually let them ram you, so it can be somewhat avoided if you don't get too caught up in big battles. If you do get boarded, it's similar to boarding enemy ships in Black Flag, except that you can't use the "Captain's mini-cannon" to take down enough crew to capture the other ship without ever getting into hand combat.

The ship combat itself doesn't seem harder or easier. I had little trouble fighting superior ships with my Black Flag experience. That's not to say that it's easy to take on a man-o-war; that heavy shot still stings like hell.

The biggest change is actually in the "on foot" part, where assassins can now target you. It's an interesting addition to the game, but it isn't a huge change since it only happens occasionally.

The best part of the game is honestly the main character. I found Shay more believable than past protagonists, and this time around most of the targets you assassinate are assholes that deserved it (which is often not the case), with one HUGE exception that you'll probably have mixed feelings about. It was fun to play a Templar for a change, and the modern-day story was slightly less stupid than Black Flag's (which was already a big improvement over the AC1-3 Desmond conspiracy-theory bullshit that a 5th grader could have written). I definitely recommend it.

Thanks for the review.

Do you ever get to sail in anything else besides your own ship? It was a shame in BF that you only got out of the Jackdaw for one total mission.
IIRC, it's the same, one mission commanding a big man-o-war.

I haven't done the 4 legendary ship battles yet, but from what I hear they have been beefed up from the legendary battles in Black Flag. One of them apparently has a bunch of fire ships as an escort...

I think the story is one of the best yet for the series. I was never a big Ezio fan, and I actually liked Connor well enough. I thought Edward was easier to identify with, but Shay is even more so. Unfortunately, the story is shorter so some parts of his adventures are skipped.
 
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