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Description ATI lackey - Hardcore PC gamer (simRacing, flight-sims, space-sims, strategy/wargames) - PC builder/troubleshooter (25+ years) - Weather fanatic (especially winter storms, blizzards and Nor'Easters)
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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - X Rebirth
97. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 16, 2013, 16:01 Rigs
 
Creston wrote on Nov 16, 2013, 14:32:
Rigs wrote on Nov 16, 2013, 12:24:
and now Egosoft finally gives us what we asked for

Except very few X fans ever asked for a new UI. I thought the UI in TC worked just fine. Yes, it was complex, because it's a complex game, but it did everything it needed to, and did so quickly and without fuss.

Now, in an effort to get new players, Egosoft builds a new UI, which is fucking terrible, and which also pisses off their old players.

I don't know about X fans but most people that stated that they tried it and didn't like it (here on BN) was because of the UI. 'Too many menus', 'Things are too hard to find', 'You have to search for what you want' and that there weren't any decent tutorials in game telling you what to do if you were new at it. Obviously, those of us who are avid players have been using it since pretty much the beginning and have no problems getting what we need (such as your 'C,2,1 in 0.01 seconds' below). New (or newer) players are plopped down in a ship in a rather empty sector with nothing happening and no direction at the start. The biggest question I've seen after all these years is, 'Ok, what now?'.

So I can understand Egosoft wanting to do something about that to make it more accessible. And there's nothing wrong with that, contrary to some thinking it 'dumbs it down' or it smacks of 'consolitis' (yes, I've seen comments that have said that, mainly on Youtube - of course). But before you throw out the baby with the bath water, make sure you give yourself enough time to make sure your new 'super duper GUI extravaganza' is ready for prime time!

...

profit?

How ANYONE at that company looked at the new UI and went "Job well done, fellas! This is just the pinnacle of space game UIs!" is beyond belief.

Why is there a fucking DELAY in the UI selections? In TC, you go C, 2, 1 in 0.01 seconds, and docking permissions is granted. Here's it's enter. Wait a second. Hit 5. Wait a second. Hit 5 again.

BETTER!

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Apparently, the 'new' problems that Egosoft are now diligently working to fix weren't exactly 'new'. At least, that's what I gather from the blurb here at IncGamers...specifically, this part:

IncGamers will be publishing a review of X Rebirth in the future, but as beta code only functioned intermittently for us and the game is gigantic, we wonít be rushing with this one. Early indications show itís pretty rough around the edges.

[ EDIT: Also, this...Egosoft apologise for the state of X Rebirth Ė Bugs being investigated ]

I can see when a dev introduces a new way of doing things in a series, something that wasn't done before, they would have problems. But that's when you keep the game until it's all fixed! Even our beloved Egosoft are not infallible, yet it seems like the whole industry is forgetting this one fundamental fact! Maybe it's because of the blurring of the lines between 'concept', 'alpha', 'beta' and 'early release' that devs are becoming more comfortable with sending out games that just aren't quite ready for prime time only to fix them out in the wild. Granted, that's kind of par for the course when it comes to Egosoft, but I think this time it bit them in the ass. Or more to the point, they bit off more than they could possibly chew in the amount of time they'd been given. If problems were evident during this whole time (now I really wish I'd signed the NDA when I had the chance, because I'm seriously curious if this was the case) then the game should have been held until a more stable version could be made available. When they come out to the community and act like this is all news to them, it gets me thinking they knew what was going to happen all along and went with it anyway. Again, previous releases were pretty rough too, but this kind of thing, which is becoming endemic in this industry lately, needs to stop! Nowhere else could an industry get away with releasing products that half-worked or were bugged, with the developers full knowledge, only to be steadily fixed after. Egosoft doesn't get a pass just because it's something they're 'known for'...(or because we love the little bastards)...

Blegh. Anyway, I'll put it away for a month or so, give them time to work on it, and come back to it for the Xmas holiday.

I thought this is the Xmas holiday? All the stores seem to think so...


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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - X Rebirth
89. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 16, 2013, 12:24 Rigs
 
X: BTF: 'What the hell am I doing? Where am I going? WHO the hell am I?!'

Xtension: 'Ah, time to make some money!'

X2: 'Ok, this is a little better...graphics are a little flashier! Nice. Oh god, that animation and lip-sync is horrendous! Turn it off! How do I...oh, oooh, nice menus! What's this? External cameras?! Yeah buddy! The Khaak?! Really? All the super awesometacular sci-fi names out there and you come up with that? Adam Sessler's gonna have a field day with this...'

X3: 'Alright, now let's go out there and kick some ass! My god, so many different ships! Ok, Egosoft, who ate my cockpit?! Eeh, doesn't matter, someone will mod it in sooner or...and there it is! Man you guys are quick! Now, time to develop a good money making strategy. Set up trade routes, supply runs, convoy escorts. Still lovin' those external cams!'

X3-AP: 'Finally, some intrigue, romance and suspense! A storyline? Ok, I'll bite. Let me get my macros set and all my bindings done...OK! I really wish they would streamline these menus and lists! Where's the innovation, Egosoft? They're practically the same thing since the first X, only prettier and with more 'depth'. Wouldn't hurt to bring in some tabs or something or re-arrange the menus to eliminate some of the excessive clicking...Anyway, where were we? Oh right! 'It was a dark and stormy nebula...'

X-Rebirth:
'I WANT THE MENUS BACK! PLEASE GIVE US THE OLD UI BACK! I PROMISE I'LL NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AGAIN! I'm so lost! First MicroSoft takes away the Start Menu and now Egosoft finally gives us what we asked for...I wanna go back! Puppyeyes I WANNA GO BACK! Crying *stomps feet


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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - X Rebirth
66. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 16, 2013, 00:50 Rigs
 
...We find 'Rigs', after a search consisting of nearly two whole minutes, in the corner of a sparsely used closet, his hair disheveled, his eyes locked forward, focusing on some unseen object that apparently only he can see, his head shaking left and right, as if something absolutely terrifying was befalling him at that very moment, a barely audible cry of 'No..no no no...it's all gone...it's all different...' can be heard in-between bouts of nail biting and thumb sucking...the only piece of clothing, a dark blue t-shirt with some sort of emblem on the breast pocket area, but the only thing that can be made out when it's time to change thumbs is 'something News'...A perplexing situation, indeed!


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News Comments > Trove Announced; Alpha Signups
2. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2013, 21:10 Rigs
 
Asmodai wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 20:45:
I'm officially voxel sandbox burnt out...

EQ:Next Landmark didn't even twig my interest. Come on people, time for the "next big thing".

*quickly stuffs 3D voxels under the couch cushion...

How about flat-shaded poly...no, that's been done...ok, what about texture mapped-....no, no, been done too...OH! Oh, oh! why not take a flat-shaded polygon and normal map -...DAMMIT!

This 'next big thing' shit is hard work!


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News Comments > Thief Dropping QTEs
55. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2013, 17:43 Rigs
 
Rigs wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 13:09:
PsychoMoggieBagpuss wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 11:05:
MajorD wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 10:49:
@PsychoMoggieBagpuss: Thank you, much appreciated. Thumbsup


You're welcome!

Something to tide you by while you download

Thief
System Shock 2


Obviously you'll want to grab the latest SHTUP and rebirth mods for SS2, the first provides higher res texture, the second high res enemy models. Can get those here , some other good mods and that over at https://www.systemshock.org/ as well (for both SS and thief).

Wow, those certainly look awesometacular! So, just to run this thread completely off the rails, what would someone need for the 'ultimate experience' for their first virgin run through? (I've never played any of the Thief series or SS2, though I've always wanted to try) Since the graphics were one thing that kept me from doing so and they don't seem to be an issue anymore, what exactly all do I need to get to what's shown in those vids?

So I see you guys aren't going to let me be lazy and tell me everything up front so I don't have to learn by trial and error (not to mention hours on end of learning and understanding)...no, no, that's fine. I understand. There are more important matters to attend to than telling me where to go (AHEM! Don't even think about it! ) like getting X: Rebirth to run at a decent frame rate and unboxing that new PS4 that just arrived. Well, in light of those, my quest does seem a bit...quaint. So, go on, I won't hold it against you. I'm not the type to cause a scene...


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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - X Rebirth
41. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2013, 13:50 Rigs
 
Creston wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 13:08:
Compared to some games COUGH SIMCITY COUGH COUGH I could mention, that's mindblowingly fast.

Oh, shit, I forgot about Simcity...damn...maybe because I've totally exorcised that demon from my mind...


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News Comments > Thief Dropping QTEs
39. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2013, 13:09 Rigs
 
PsychoMoggieBagpuss wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 11:05:
MajorD wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 10:49:
@PsychoMoggieBagpuss: Thank you, much appreciated. Thumbsup


You're welcome!

Something to tide you by while you download

Thief
System Shock 2


Obviously you'll want to grab the latest SHTUP and rebirth mods for SS2, the first provides higher res texture, the second high res enemy models. Can get those here , some other good mods and that over at https://www.systemshock.org/ as well (for both SS and thief).

Wow, those certainly look awesometacular! So, just to run this thread completely off the rails, what would someone need for the 'ultimate experience' for their first virgin run through? (I've never played any of the Thief series or SS2, though I've always wanted to try) Since the graphics were one thing that kept me from doing so and they don't seem to be an issue anymore, what exactly all do I need to get to what's shown in those vids?


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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - X Rebirth
33. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2013, 12:52 Rigs
 
El Pit wrote on Nov 15, 2013, 11:58:
Okay, thanks to your feedback. I won't buy it right now. It's obviously again a botched release with many problems. What a shame. I'm sure Egosoft will fix these with a year or so, and then it'll be cheaper anyway. Back to Path of Exile, Act II.

Now, now, I'd seriously consider both sides here (yes, I'm a fanboy in a sinking cruise liner trying to bail it out with a soup ladle but hear me out)...there are lots of negative but there are also some that don't seem to have many, if only a slight few, problems, and nothing game breaking. Just because it's somewhat buggy doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed. (Hell, look at Daikatan...ok, bad example...look at Alie...ok, maybe not (though that has improved considerably since release!)...just remember how Battlecruiser3-...ok, I'm not helping myself here, I admit ) I say, go with your own opinion. You might be surprised!

Ya, i saw in a previous dev diary that shadows really hammer systems and that they spent a lot of effort on making the medium and lower shadow shaders look really good.

Shadows are the first thing in almost any game I turn down or off! They are always performance killers, the question is just how much? Obviously turning v-sync off and any AA and AF will help as well...

EDIT: Also want to re-iterate to you guys, as some forget in the confusion of getting a new game to run, to make sure you don't have any AA or AF 'forced' in the driver settings...sometimes you might have it set like so for one game and then forget to disable it when starting a new one (something I've done on occasion!)...


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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - X Rebirth
16. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2013, 11:25 Rigs
 
Yeah, something tells me that the wrong release was...released...God, PLEASE DON'T BE ANOTHER SOTS2, Egosoft! PLEASE!!!

The thing about testers just signing an NDA to play early...eeh, yes and no. You get a few (and of course, at first everyone wants to play) but once that wears off and there's work to be done, the core community springs into action and starts bug huntin'/breaking shit. Have you guys actually seen the bug tracker and bug/glitch forum? Very thorough and complete, especially from such a 'small' studio like Egosoft. Impressive, really...

I'm not going to go by any reviews/impressions/first thoughts/lets plays...my opinion is my own and I know what I like and I can typically handle some bugs and glitching. I see the masterpiece underneath so I'm not going to let things cloud my judgement...

BTW, about five minutes after release, there was a torrent posted. Might have been fake but it's got like 10,000 leechers now, so...


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News Comments > X Rebirth & Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition Preloads
41. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2013, 19:10 Rigs
 
MajorD wrote on Nov 14, 2013, 18:14:
Rigs wrote on Nov 14, 2013, 10:43:
MajorD wrote on Nov 13, 2013, 21:06:
This will be a totally new style of game for me, so I'm really curious about the learning curve.

Ah, yes, learning curve....well, picture, if you will, Tiger Woods with a 9-iron. See how after he hits the ball, it curves back down to the ground 150 yards out? There you go. Enjoy! *walks away*
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Goodluck Which me luck.

Salute I think you'll enjoy it, just give it a chance and don't go in negative and you shouldn't have a problem. And if you have questions, just ask, one of us will probably know the answer...


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News Comments > X Rebirth Launch Trailer
20. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2013, 17:56 Rigs
 
warmbluelasers wrote on Nov 14, 2013, 17:43:
Only one playable ship? X was good but it's not good enough to give up the fleet collecting, carrier captaining aspect.

I have no doubt whatsoever that other ships/cockpits will be modded in within a few days/weeks. The reasoning was that many players never really spent much time actually navigating a large warship/freighter because they were such ponderous slugs. Most, it was reckoned, just jumped onto the bridge to handle fitting out of weapons/cargo and ships (in the case of carriers/frigates/corvettes) and right back out to a smaller vessel. In a way, they're right. Still, it would be nice to have the choice. Aside from story-wise, I don't see a real technical reason why they couldn't do it....


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News Comments > X Rebirth & Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition Preloads
38. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2013, 17:49 Rigs
 
Creston wrote on Nov 14, 2013, 17:16:
Rigs wrote on Nov 14, 2013, 10:43:
WHAT THE HELL IS SNUGGLE TRUCK?!?

Snuggle Truck.

Wow ZEE FUZZEY!!! I CAN'T TAKE ZEE FUZZEY!!! IT IS JUST TOO ADORABBLE!!!

'Now with 'Brony Mode'!'

Faint

I assume the sequel will be 'Cuddle Kart' then? Giggle


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News Comments > Out of the Blue
14. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2013, 10:56 Rigs
 
And look who sits in last place...oh, right - ME! Probably only because I didn't start until the second week and then I went with 'intuition' which, for football, I have like NONE, so I fell - HARD! After the first two weeks, I stopped using my brain and went with the majority, with the exception of all GIANTS games, of course, and some that I felt might be 'sure things', like the Bucs couldn't possibly lose 5/6/7 games in a row...could they? (FFFFFUUUUUU....!) I also always go for Dallas because it was my fathers team. And yes, the 49-17 slaughter they took last week made me cringe. It downright made me sick to my stomach! How the HELL do you lose so bad? Geezus...

I've noticed that even though I have a 57% success rate, once you fall down to the bottom levels, it's almost impossible to make it up unless you manage to get every single one right, which is...almost impossible. I don't care what anyone says, these things are by luck and I think everyone's record shows this...


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News Comments > X Rebirth & Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition Preloads
35. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2013, 10:43 Rigs
 
MajorD wrote on Nov 13, 2013, 21:06:
The Half Elf wrote on Nov 13, 2013, 20:47:
Where's Creston so I can beg him to get me a copy of Rebirth

I don't know....I think he is still only giving away copies of Snuggle Truck. :o

WHAT THE HELL IS SNUGGLE TRUCK?!?
(for some reason, when I say 'snuggle truck' in my mind, I picture someone yelling, 'TEH FLUFFY!!! I can't take teh fluffy!!! It's just too cute!!!'...hmmm)

This will be a totally new style of game for me, so I'm really curious about the learning curve.

Ah, yes, learning curve....well, picture, if you will, Tiger Woods with a 9-iron. See how after he hits the ball, it curves back down to the ground 150 yards out? There you go. Enjoy! *walks away*


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News Comments > Ships Ahoy - Redshirt
6. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2013, 06:02 Rigs
 
Wasn't this in alpha like a month ago?


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News Comments > World of Warplanes Takes Off
7. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 13, 2013, 13:18 Rigs
 
I've played WarThunder quite a bit and love it. There's one nagging issue, besides the lousy joystick support (in a flight combat game?! C'mon, it's 2013! You guys should know better!) is the one shot 'You've been Incapacitated' deal. I fuckin' HATE that! Especially when going against bombers that have rear guns/turrets (which the AI controls), they can take you out in less than 5 seconds with two shots! Your engine is just as vulnerable in that situation as well. I don't know if it's realistic, but it sure is aggravating as all hell gameplay-wise!

Other than that, there isn't another MMO flight combat game out there that can touch this except maybe Rise of Flight, but that's a WW1 game/sim, so not exactly the same thing. I highly recommend WarThunder over WoWp.


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News Comments > VoidExpanse Announced
1. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 13, 2013, 12:32 Rigs
 
From post update #3:
"This week everything changed completely. Now we donít have to draw graphics in Paint anymore Ė a new artist finally joined us here :)."

Always a good thing...


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News Comments > Out of the Blue
32. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 11, 2013, 05:52 Rigs
 
Wow, I should've popped into this thread a lot sooner! From what I've seen since before landfall and then after, some estimated reports have winds sustained as high as 205mph AT landfall (which, to me, seems too high to be possible) and others are in the 175-195mph range (which is much more reasonable, though not any less extraordinary). This doesn't account for higher gusts (some, again, have put them in the 230mph range, which is, of course, theoretically possible). The whole problem is that there was no way to accurately tell because there were no official data being collected before and during landfall (such as hurricane hunter aircraft, which aren't used in the West Pacific basin), everything had to be estimated based on satellite, radar and the occasional space-based microwave scan.

What I can't really understand is why there were so many fatalities (if the first casualty estimates turn out to be true - 10,000+). They had nearly a five days warning, the Philippine government was on the ball (for a change) and evacuated all the coastal towns in the projected path of the storm (which was surprisingly accurate) and had supplies and assets on alert to be deployed at a moments notice in multiple cities and municipalities. Yet, an estimated 10 thousand still perish? WTF? This isn't the first 'super' typhoon to hit them this year (there were three before, two in the last three weeks alone) and there have been 28 named storms this year total. This is a normal season for them. Except for the outright strength of the storm, nothing about this was new to them. They all were very aware and experienced, yet 10,000 estimated dead. I don't get it, I really don't...


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News Comments > Sunday Metaverse
4. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2013, 15:58 Rigs
 
I swear some people just see freakin' dollar signs whenever they look at a website! Not what kind of support it gives to the community it serves or it's value as an information resource...nope, how much SHIT can we safely pile on before everyone runs for something else? Assholes...


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News Comments > Steam Top 10
8. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2013, 15:00 Rigs
 
SpectralMeat wrote on Nov 10, 2013, 14:53:
I've canceled my pre order on it. Will read some reviews first.

*Gasp* Oh, knife to the heart! Geez, you cancelled you're pre-order?! In God's name, why?! This is going to be the best X yet! I wish I had signed the NDA for the beta team when the time came but I missed it. Even if it's a little buggy, I can't see Rebirth being any worse than the best damn space-combat/trading sim around! Honestly, Egosoft should get all the support they can cause, at the moment, they're pretty much the only ones, commercially, holding up the space-sim genre. (Yes, there are Indie titles out and coming and of course, the big gun's Elite and Star Citizen in two years or so, but right now, there's nothing out there that can touch X)


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