Pigeon wrote on May 24, 2013, 10:13:
As terrible as the XBone sounds I'd be surprised if it actually did this.

Verno wrote on May 23, 2013, 09:14:
Somehow I missed that quote from the guy about Solitaire, holy shit I would have slapped that dude in the face. "reimagined Solitaire" is either the master stroke troll or they are seriously that deluded over there.

Creston wrote on May 22, 2013, 16:49:

Yosemite Sam wrote on May 22, 2013, 16:06:
Heh XBOX reveal in a minute forty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

Hahahahaha that is fucking fantastic.

To sum it up

Xbox
TV
Sports
Call of Duty

I imagine Ballmer was screaming these four points over the PA system at Redmond the entire day before the reveal. "REMEMBER GUYS! XBOX! TV! SPORTS! CALL OF DUTY!"

Creston

Julio wrote on May 22, 2013, 15:28:
Why not drop the need for discs all together? They could also cut the bluray drive out and lose less on each console. If they're going to shoot themselves in the foot by nuking used games, and not letting you play your disc on multiple consoles they might as well have gone all the way.

Creston wrote on May 22, 2013, 15:10:

SpectralMeat wrote on May 22, 2013, 14:02:

Creston wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:59:
Really? That's surprising. Microsoft seems to think everyone around the worlds wants absolute HEAPS of shit in their new console.

Creston

Some responses on twitter land actually suggest just that.

Our favorite celebrity CliffyB:
https://twitter.com/hansel_mau/status/337262108624420864

Trust that fucking moron to gobble up Microsoft's shit by the shovel. Of course, Microsoft basically gave him his E-list celebrity, so perhaps he feels loyalty to them.

Creston

Verno wrote on May 22, 2013, 14:05:

SpectralMeat wrote on May 22, 2013, 14:00:
I bet you most people that wanted to buy the new console have no clue what DRM is or how that will affect them.
I personally can't get upset about the new xbox or PS4 DRM, won't make any difference for my PC games

I don't agree with that at all, be indifferent if you want but a ton of people buy and sell used games. If most people don't know then great, we're just helping to inform them before it's too late. Either way it's shitty DRM with no benefit to the consumer and it should fucking change regardless of how worked you can get yourself or not.

Creston wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:59:
Really? That's surprising. Microsoft seems to think everyone around the worlds wants absolute HEAPS of shit in their new console.

Creston

Verno wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:54:

SpectralMeat wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:26:
I think you guys are making way too many conclusions on details that are just pieced together from bits and pieces of info.

Bits and pieces of info from the maker of the console itself, this is not idle speculation easily dismissed like the pre-reveal rumors. I disagree entirely that people are making something out of nothing, it's quite the opposite and you are giving them too much leeway in consideration here. Now is the time to voice opposition and condemn this sort of idiocy unless you want to see it on display on the shelves without any changes made.

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/337258743366574080

Yeah, this is called PR. When people are upset you quiet down and ride it out. The only way these things change is if enough people are pissed off about it.

Creston wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:31:

SpectralMeat wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:26:
Did they actually confirm the amount (if any) that a person have to pay for a second hand game if he/she wants to activate it?

Phil Harrison confirmed that the second user simply pays full price.

Creston

Verno wrote on May 22, 2013, 13:14:
There have been a number of amusing images to accompany this clusterfuck but this one is by far my favorite.

Their approach with discs is beyond dumb now, they're basically pointless. Since you have to activate before you play all its used for is essentially forgoing a download, it's fake ownership. That can work but you need to provide a lot of value in exchange for the offsetting loss to the consumer. Steam does that well enough, Microsoft absolutely does not.

Devinoch wrote on May 21, 2013, 19:48:
Everything at this point, on all sides, is smoke and mirrors. Until these things are in people's living rooms 6 months from now, nobody, and I do mean nobody, has any idea of the pros and cons of them. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something.

Lorcin wrote on May 21, 2013, 18:44:
Oh and I can press the button called "Guide" on my tv and get the TV still playing in a small window quicker than I can say "Xbox show the guide".

siapnar wrote on May 21, 2013, 14:13:
I thought they were doing an alright job until they started saying TV, Content and Experience five thousand times.

Creston wrote on May 21, 2013, 12:31:

MajorD wrote on May 21, 2013, 12:26:

SpectralMeat wrote on May 21, 2013, 12:19:

Creston wrote on May 21, 2013, 11:35:
I've been in that closet about a dozen times or so over the years; it's always better to be safe than sorry.

So I guess "coming out of the closet" has a slightly different meaning in your case

Badoooom pissssh (rim shot)!

hahahahhaaa! Yeah it kinda does. Especially since I come out of the closet every year or so. :p

Creston

Creston wrote on May 21, 2013, 11:35:
I've been in that closet about a dozen times or so over the years; it's always better to be safe than sorry.