Ok, well then I must ask you this: what do graphics have to do with hype?

You just admitted the graphics do, in fact, look great

What did you see in this video that made you think it will be anything like Unreal 2?

What did you see in the video that turns you off to the game?

The truth is, you have nothing until you play it. So play it, then gripe about it.

The original Doom had gameplay

You act as though the lighting is purely eye-candy; the equivalent of a cutscene. In fact it is fully interactive, which is what the whole fuss is about. It will affect and in fact create gameplay.

I'm not sure I understand that statement.

Well, sure, but those are all yet to be seen. One could say that something broad like "destructible objects" or "interactive environments" are a mainstay of high end gaming, but that doesn't mean that one game doesn't do it better than others, or that just because it's there that it's implemented well.

Now I just don't understand what you're basing these conclusions on. We've still hardly seen Doom 3.

I mean, to an extent I see where you're coming from, I don't expect Doom 3 to have really deep gameplay, but I don't think anyone does.

Is it being hyped? not in the least bit.

All the 3D character models are generated with Maya.. the models are simply ported into a key framing animation App and "viola!" life. I don't know what your talking about on that point????

with Doom III there are obvious curvatures to surfaces

But, as long as the creative processes don't hire idiots that make screenplays for movies like The Core and Armeggedon.. everything may turn out alright

Yea. Lighting is Everything when it comes to what you see around you.

It's lighting fx that will give us Pixar quality gaming

You probably weren't all that impressed with the physics of the game ether, were you?

When the zombie burst from the floor and the grating went bouncing to the ground.

Hmmmmmm. Seems to me you don't have much of an appreciation for the evolution of gaming.

So, tell us. What game makes you go WOW! Im sure you'll say Stalker. High polys and high rez textures. yea? Like a book. ....or, maybe your just trying to be differnt and stand out?

Well, we know one thing for sure. If you do play this. Your going to be complaning, complaining, the whole entire time

Because technology just isn't where you want it to be yet, if ever.

Xombie, you have no credibility in your opinion.
The graphics are amazing.

...the reason why id is using the Maya render also is because of the smooth modeling and bump mapping features it offers

have no idea why Xombie is so focused on textures...

If you are seeing textures?" it's due to the highly demanding nature of surface model bump mapping

When you see a model rendered in Doom III you are seeing real time nurbed objects (which provides that smooth skin surface not angular)

Carmack has incorporated into what is eqivelant to realtime CGI not those cool CGIs you see when a game intro begins.

as for other effects: blood that behaves with the physics of water. and sorted other features

The (ahem) Elvis-like upper-lip snarl on the guy's face when the skull flys into him

which features were sacrificed?.

Anyone who mentions the words "sub-par" in the same sentence as "doom 3 engine" must have some serious type of eye cancer.

Those spider things look great, but the flaming skull (lost souls?) seems to be low-poly. I guess it was an early dev shot.

After watching that movie, I feel the screenshots really don't do the game justice

The engine is obviously pushing computer technology to the limits

You can only do so much with current available processing power and it looks like id did a good job in making an efficient engine.

It seems to play like the original Doom.

Any major gameplay changes from the original would be an insult to the fans

Doom 3
Half Life 2
Max Pain 2
Deus Ex 2
Thief 3
Jedi Knight 3
Quake 4
Elite Force 2

to bad your just a pc fan boy, your missing out on a timeless game. Just like System Shock 2 is still a great game today, halo will stand the same. You should be glad you have the chance to play it.

Again Xombie, you are basing your conclusion on rumors

If you can prove me wrong, paste me some proof, but i'm sure you're again just talking out of a hatred for Id

GG valve, the only reason i even bought Hl initially was due to promises of TF2

Hmm Halo 2 I will play just because I loved Halo. It was a well made game with a lot of replayability value

But I don't think I will bother with it because it will most likely be packaged with that stupid Steam delivery system

Actually, we don't know this for sure. If the hype was to be believed, Unreal 2 would have made us forget about Doom 3, Deus Ex : IW, Stalker AND any possible Half Life 2.

For years now, all that has been posted is, "Valve Sucks".

Oh & the hype! D3 is going to be a kick ass game. It will be different from HL2, but in ways much better.

No, he hasn't worked on a game... he worked on SHREK! Shows the quality they have in their department.

Ok... whatever. Instead of talking on the chance that you could be wrong, why not be open minded and wait for the game? It's kind of a silly stance.

Since you don't like id's previous games,