NegaDeath wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 22:26:

Quboid wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:45:
Why Zynga? Why not EA? Why not Activision? Why not iD Softwareblah blah

Because I don't want any of them to close, despite their flaws.

I don't even understand what your argument is anymore. Is it that I secretly hate the casual market but give popcap some kind of pass? I didn't call for the closure of any other casual studio and last I checked there were way more than two devs. Popcap doesn't hold a candle to Zynga when it comes to stealing ideas.

Casual market ok, Zynga bad. Are we done here now? I certainly am.

Verno wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 22:06:
For the record Popcap owns and always has and I've rarely seen anyone air an opinion to the opposite here. Plus when you're making the accusation I'd say the onus is on you, not everyone else but whatever, I'll leave you to...whatever this is then

What are you hoping to gain here? I really don't get the point to be honest. Do you want everyone to just bring up every bad thing every company has done to be fair and balanced? Do you work for EA or Zynga? If not who cares? People will never be 100% balanced or fair, that's not human nature and you're not excluded from that either.

Verno wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:57:

They generally weren't popular here until they became the little guys against EA. If everyone had consistent views, we'd (with exceptions) dislike both sides here.

This wasn't aimed at me but I'm calling bullshit on it, that's just a justification for your rant. People have always been fairly enthusiastic about Popcap games for as long as I've been reading the site.

Verno wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:55:

Quboid wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:20:
That list means virtually nothing.

Err yeah it does, you made a pretty vague accusation and he refuted it handily. No offense but you've been asking for it lately with all of the "blah blah the community here sucks because they don't think like XYZ" stuff. Sometimes the cynicism gets to me but you don't fight it by feeding into it and to be honest sometimes its perfectly logical and understandable.

People just really like their games and the EA purchase made people weary for many legitimate reasons, since the acquisition it's been one bit of bad news after another. No idea why you're persisting with this, I'd just chalk it up to having a bad day and move on.

Dades wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:43:
Why indulge him? EA is well known for buying up studios and squandering their talents, it's not even a thing most reasonable people would contest. It's not EA bashing to state a generally accepted fact. If you don't like it here thats your problem. Stop making it everyone elses fault when its how you choose to selectively interpret things. People like PopCap, they make fun little games. People don't like EA that much, they tend to beat the piss out of their studios creatively. If that bugs you oh well, get a thicker skin.

- DADES - This is a signature of my name, enjoy!

NegaDeath wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:39:

Quboid wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:30:
Yes you did. You mentioned "Zinga" out of the blue on that thread, the only connection Zynga had to the topic was that they're both casual game companies. That's a clearly implied comparison.

Nope. Popcap is a great studio, Zynga is run by talentless thieving hacks. I merely corrected the poster when he called for popcaps closure, nobody wants that. The target market has nothing to do with it.

Your still only at one.

NegaDeath wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:26:

Quboid wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 21:20:
Negadeath, why did you draw a comparison between them and PopCap?

I didn't.

nin wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 20:34:

Are you saying that PopCap have been respected here?

I was under that impression, yes.

Edit: that didn't take long.

Ok, so that's two people.

nin wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 20:24:
So you got nothin then?

Verno wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 19:22:

Quboid wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 16:41:
Are you guys talking about a different PopCap? Maybe confusing them with PopTop? The PopCap I am familiar with were hated here for raping PC gaming and turning a generation of gamers into casual gaming lovers.

Funny how quickly things change when there's a hint of conflict with EA. Not even a hint, a theory. If that. EA are doing what they want with an organisation who voluntarily agreed to let them do this? Ohh, evil EA. Ohh, poor little PopCap. Oh, poor Peggle, remember how we loved this game?

No, no we didn't, we hated that game and we hated that developer. "Popcap's fantastic reputation"?! Are you kidding me? To be fair, maybe you did like them and PvZ is popular here (despite being the sort of casual game that we're supposed to be too cool to enjoy), but their reputation here was dismal.

Half - being generous - the posts here are just contrary EA bashing based on zero facts.

There's nothing wrong with enjoyable games that don't pander too much and still have enough depth to attract a wide variety of players. Plenty of people here like Popcap and play their games with family members.

You seem like you need a vacation or something, every time I see you post lately it's a generalized rant about some aspect of the community you don't like. You talk about contrary bashing but you're doing exactly the same thing.

SpectralMeat wrote on Dec 10, 2012, 15:05:
I think people should have at the very least have a general idea of where they are going with or without a GPS. If you don't know that your destination is 200 or 300 km away then that is your own fault.
People were able to get around before there were any GPS. On the paper map you don't get a blinking point where your current location is.
So no I don't feel sorry for the idiots getting lost because they have no clue where they are going the begin with.

Dev wrote on Dec 8, 2012, 06:58:

Quboid wrote on Dec 7, 2012, 14:55:
How good is Windows 8? I'm building a PC for my mum and I'll need to buy an OS; she's used to Windows and won't fancy switching.

Specifically, how good is Windows 8 without Metro.

I know Metro is appalling for keyboard/mouse users and I would be disabling that. However, Metro's received so much attention that I've no idea if the rest of the OS is any good. Is Windows 8 - Metro better than Windows 7?

Remember that you won't be able to disable metro at boot without a 3rd party tool, MS disabled all the registry ways to disable metro on boot when they did the final release version. Also, you will still be missing a start menu, again a 3rd party tool will take care of that.

Without a 3rd party tool you will have to enter desktop mode on every bootup and be without a start menu. MS really really wanted to force people into metro.

You can still get win 8 for $15 (details are on slickdeals). So fortunately its cheap enough you can still pay for the 3rd party tool without too much issue.

Alternatively one can generally downgrade as well. Not sure how the details of that are handled.