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47. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 3, 2014, 02:44 jdreyer
Beamer wrote on Feb 3, 2014, 01:23:
You don't think that, if it was legal, you wouldn't have more people trying it out of curiosity?

Right now, illegality and it simply being difficult to access absolutely limits who is doing it. Obviously a large amount of people still have access to it, but I don't think it's hard to imagine that there are plenty of people that never try it because they never have the opportunity, and that the legal issues further discourage them from overcoming that. I don't think many people would disagree that no one listens to what the government discourages us from. Some, however, do listen to what they prohibit us from.

Removing all barriers will absolutely increase first time users, and for things like meth, first time users are never only time users.
This isn't something like marijuana, which is harmless. This is something that legitimately destroys people.

Also, the "if people want to ruin themselves I say let them" argument below Prez' is a terrible one.

Right. Take each drug on a case-by-case basis. Something fairly harmless like MJ should be regulated like alcohol. Right now highschoolers have a much easier time scoring a doob than they do buying beer, b/c dealers don't card. Legalizing and regulating MJ is key to preventing underage usage, where it can actually do some damage.

Other drugs that are either physically addictive or cause bodily harm perhaps shouldn't be sold, but should be decriminalized. No more sending people to prison for possession. Make the government a supplier and subsidize it, easily undercutting the black market price by orders of magnitudes. Who will pay $100 for a gram of cocaine, when the gov't sells it as a prescription for $5? It's no longer worth it for criminals to import it at such low prices, they'd have to sell at a loss. There's no profit. And the gov't doesn't cut it's coke with Borax. So, none of those health problems occur. For a 95% discount, every addict will accept the condition of attending a treatment program. No more prison sentences will stop destroying people's ability to get a job. Will some of these gov't supplied drugs end up in the general population? I'm sure some will, but no more than what's there now, and likely much less.

One more point: the total value of the raw poppy crop has been estimated at $5B. The cost of fighting heroin at all levels has been estimated at something like $20B. The world could save a ton of cash by just buying the poppy crop each year and dumping it in the ocean.

The "War on Drugs" is over. We lost. It's time to try some new tactics.
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