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49. Re: Out of the Blue Feb 1, 2014, 17:32 Agent.X7
xXBatmanXx wrote on Feb 1, 2014, 16:19:
Agent.X7 wrote on Feb 1, 2014, 15:31:
Sure. If you let it, almost anything can fuck up your life. But you know whose problem that is? YOURS. Making things illegal doesn't change that, it just makes problems for other people.

The problem is that YOUR problem becomes MY PROBLEM then infringes on my FREEDOMS and LIBERTIES, per definition. I just don't understand the idea of "well just open up everything for everyone" - people can't even handle what is legal, and you want to open up Pandora's box to a gamut of garbage......

But that's the Chicken Little argument people use for EVERYTHING. OMG, if people are allowed to carry guns there will be blood running in the streets! Hasn't happened. OMG, if the assault weapon ban runs out murders will skyrocket! Murder rates actually dropped. OMG, if we legalize drugs EVRERYONE will use them and the country will go to hell. None of the countries that have decriminalized drugs have shown this to be true. There's a slight increase during the first couple of months, and then a sharp drop in usage.

HIV, street crimes, drug related deaths and usage all dropped by almost half when Portugal decriminalized drugs. The rate of people seeking treatment for drug addiction rose by over 50%. That means less people on drugs and more people seeking help for the addictions they have.

I don't understand the "people can't even handle what is legal" argument. Sure, people the police deal with. Not everyone. Not even most people. I have many guns, I have never killed or shot anybody. I drink alcohol, I've never driven drunk or become an alcoholic. (Which I know about first hand since my father has been one since before I was born.) You cannot punish the many for the problems of the few.

And yes, when people with problems effect other people, then they are infringing on other peoples' rights. And then YOU, as an officer of the law, arrest them for their stupidity. Same way it works now. Some crazy idiot runs down the street naked waving a shotgun they get arrested; Drunk, stoned, high on crack, it's the same thing. Except maybe if drugs were legal we wouldn't let that asshole back on the streets so that we can find his dealer, then use the dealer to find his source, etc. And maybe since the prison population would have a sharp decline, we could stop letting murders and rapists out to jail non-violent offenders.

This comment was edited on Feb 1, 2014, 17:40.
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