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25. Re: DIRT 3 Leaving GFWL in the Dirt Nov 13, 2013, 01:03 Clever Caviar
ochentay4 wrote on Nov 12, 2013, 16:57:
HoSpanky wrote on Nov 12, 2013, 16:05:
Ehh, calm down ochentay. While GFWL is a problem for many (it absolutely breaks your savegame in Dirt2 if you play multiplayer), the achievements are part of Xbox gamercards, and to be locked out of getting a 100% on a game, forever, sucks. And before you start typing about how this is a pc-elitist news site, the big thing people should be looking at is this is how it will be done every time a service dies. I believe Origin will stick around, it's actually a decent interface. But Uplay and the 50 other download services out there won't all survive. And the games on those will have to be converted, likely losing save files, or possibly lost entirely.

While I'm kind of glad GFWL is being killed, multiple games that I love are saddled with it and may not be updated. Red Faction Guerilla is a fantastic game, and while you can play single player and LAN play with a .dll bypass, you can't play it online. And I'm not sure how Iron Brigade will shake out either, which would be a terrible shame.

No matter if it was for the better, it sucks to be working toward a goal and have it taken away with little to no warning. And while I don't understand those that hate steam (those that do, WHY do you hate it? I'm curious. You just say it sucks and don't back that up with WHY), if you buy a game that explicitly doesn't require something you dislike, then it's forced in later...I can see where people could get pissy about that. Think if it went the other way around, eh? Buy a game on steam, and when you're 3/4 thru it, they add GFWL to it and break your savegames.
Yeah I was harsh with that guy, but complaining that G4WL was taken out without prior notice is just dumb. Lost savegames? He was lucky he didnt lost savegames USING G4WL like many other suffered.

I lost my GTA4 save games thanks to GFWL. That sucked. BioShock 2 never worked for me till I used an offline profile, it kept crashing on the first level. That sucked. I also had some real "fun" with Arkham Asylum and GFWL not recognising my system setup (had to swap controllers or something daft.) That sucked. I'll be glad when that horrendous layer goes away. As I know it is going the way of the dodo, it's putting me off buying games like RF:Guerilla, which I've heard is a good game.

I did 'lose' my save games for the Arkhams, well, I couldn't be bothered with the hexmagic, so I took the opportunity to play them again. Oddly, I didn't lose my save games with BioShock 2. Both were played with a local profile, or whatever the name is in GFWL land.
Rockstar made $1 billion in 3 days with GTAV, yet they can't find the budget to port RDR to PC.
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