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695. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 11:30 Sepharo
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:16:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 11:13:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:45:
Sepharo wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:37:
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 10:26:
Rolling Thunder, it seems ironic to me that you are quick to deny the label yet you are so quick to call people liars who deny the label you assign them.

He's going to say something about ducks now and that will clear the whole thing up.

It must be terrible for you watching this mess unfold and knowing in the back of your mind the opponents of Obamacare were right.

You should clarify what you mean by "right".
It's had a horrible roll out (though working for a private company making public software I didn't expect it to be good anyway) but I still support it. I really hope you were right about Republicans (bizarrely) wanting single-payer now because I do too. But I suspect that was just some crazy talk and what they really want of course is to defund and dismantle the entire reform, I of course do not support that.

/Instead of your folksy duck saying you went with a folksy one about spades. I can't wait for what's next.

Right about it costing more? Right about people losing their plans?
I still think regulation is the only way to attempt to fix the healthcare system if at all, not government mandates ala obamacare.

It costs more for some and less for others. There were people who thought this was supposed to cost less for everyone? Over the long run it should keep costs down (in comparison to pre-ACA increase) for everyone. The goal was to get health insurance to be affordable for people not poor enough for medicare but not provided insurance from their company or not wealthy enough to buy their own. The other goal was to make tons of improvements to healthcare that the industry wouldn't do on its own. Some of the big ones were "can't be denied or revoked for pre-existing conditions", 80% of intake must go to insurees health, can stay on parents plan until 26, coverage must include *, etc.. Based on your (strange) admission that you're for regulation, I assume you like those reforms and just don't like that we're being forced to buy-in? Well that mandate was the only way to get enough money for those reforms to work and as you know it's based on Romneycare and is good for big-insurance and medical. Single-payer would probably cost more tax dollars and be bad for big business because the government could negotiate lower prices and compete with private plans which would also have to drop prices in response.
 
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