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27. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 19, 2013, 17:21 jdreyer
jacobvandy wrote on Aug 19, 2013, 16:48:
I'm talking about not being a fatass.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about too. Not having a BMI, for example, that puts you in the overweight or obese categories. And yes, BMI is not a perfect measurement, but it works for most people who aren't body builders or whatever.

The example of how much exercise is required to burn X amount of calories is somewhat misleading... You don't have to actively burn off everything you eat, including junk food, because you burn the vast majority of your average daily intake of calories just by being alive.
Right, I meant for example a candy bar IN ADDITION TO your normal intake. If you eat 2000 cals at your meals, and burn 2000 cals in your sedentary job, THEN you eat an extra candy bar, that's gonna be a 2.5 mile run to burn off.

But as far as preventing obesity, it is obscenely simple... I'd say a bigger problem, than something like poverty, is that people just don't take any pride in their appearance anymore. They just don't give a fuck. There is no shame in being a fat pig, because there are so many fat pigs out there that say it's okay, that nobody feels bad. Guess what piggy? You should feel bad! Jeebus.
Well, this is my exact point about how peers and culture affect us. And campaigns that stigmatized smoking and drunk driving have had a demonstrable effect on our culture. We could do the same for "food" like soda and chips that cause the bulk of that. We could restrict that kind of stuff to 18 and older like we do with alcohol and tobacco so habits don't form in childhood.

And in the past, I don't think people cared more about how they looked. First, more people got more exercise through necessity: there were more physical jobs, and transportation required you to walk more, not everyone had cars 50 years ago like they do today. Second, food is much, much cheaper today. The average household in 1960 spent twice as much on food as we do today. When stuff is cheaper, you consume more of it.
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