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58. Re: Op Ed Apr 7, 2013, 12:54 PropheT
Flatline wrote on Apr 7, 2013, 03:01:
Wait, why do we have to have "girl games" and "guy games"? How about games that don't portray women as sexual fetishes, hyperbolic stereotypes, or victims? Surely teaching boys not to treat women as only being worthy of wank fodder can't be seen as a bad thing.

And as far as the industry being "male driven", at one point that was true, but women make up around half of gamers out there. And interestingly enough, they aren't looking to play My Little Pony- really little kids and college frat boys play MLP. The idea that women *need* "girl games" is in and of itself sexist and bigoted. Separate but equal was a shameful argument when it was about race, it's shameful here too.

Here. Come read this blog:

We have girl games and guy games for the same reason that Cosmopolitan is a women's magazing and Playboy is a men's. Should Cosmo start running articles for guys, and Playboy throwing in the occasional male centerfold to cater to a female audience? There's all kinds of other examples out there of stuff that caters to both, but the problem with rants like the one in the article is that they focus on the extremes to make an example, only applying the facts that fit their argument in order to even have an argument.

As far as teaching boys anything, most of these games are made for adults. "Think of the children" is always ridiculous when you're not specifically talking about children's things.

Women make up half of the gamers out there when you consider game types like phone games, facebook games, and others. Sure, they play Gears of War and so on, but there aren't even remotely close to equal numbers of men and women playing the hardcore games that are being talked about.

Removing "Implicit tolerance" doesn't mean complete acceptance of anything that isn't milquetoast. As for the blog, all I can say is whatever... people acting like dicks to people on the internet? You don't say. Sound black or asian on XBL? You'll get the same thing. Have a southern accent? Same thing. Not native english speaking? Good luck. There's a subset of people who will take any opportunity they can get to use the differences between them and their target to belittle whoever they're in contact with. It's prevalent in the gaming community because it's prevalent in the online community because it's prevalent in society...the filters on that idiocy are just turned off on the internet.

In short, what's your argument. What's your fix? Go through Steam right now and pick out the games that are misogynist using a definition other than that a woman shows cleavage in a picture. Start comparing what you find to books, magazines, movies, or popular music and then tell me that gaming is any different.
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