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101. Re: Op Ed Mar 20, 2013, 12:51 RollinThundr
 
Beamer wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 12:45:
RollinThundr wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 12:36:
Beamer wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 12:33:
RollinThundr wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 12:12:
Beamer wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 11:54:
RollinThundr wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 11:50:
Sepharo wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 11:40:
RollinThundr wrote on Mar 20, 2013, 11:36:
[...] why areas in the US with the toughest gun laws already, tend to have the most crime in regards to guns.

Same reason that states with bans on fireworks still have people launching huge illegal fireworks every 4th of July.

So because it's "tougher" to get guns in those areas, people want to kill more with them? Yeah sorry not buying it.

I would imagine it has alot more to do with criminals in those areas have far less fear that someone they assault will have a concealed carry permit and be able to fight back. Criminals tend to think a bit harder in areas where they're not sure someone is going to shoot back or not.

Or are the gun laws tougher because people want to kill each other more, and maybe without those laws there would be more death?

Interesting.

Not sure how looking state-by-state really matters more than country-by-country, given that culture doesn't change much by state, but hey, whatever helps prove your points in your mind and helps you read between whatever lines manage to get through your tin foil hat.

Culture certainly does change in some degrees, perhaps not extremely however. The FBI data does alot to back up the notion that tough gun laws don't really work, which is prolly a tough pill for liberals to swallow. Numbers don't lie, as much as you kick and scream and twist.

By all means continue the cheap comments though.

"Numbers don't lie" is the kind of thing that gives us insight into the simple workings of your mind.

More ad hom. Par for the course with you however.

Because you never back anything up, never respond to things that could defeat your argument (again, please address the automatic rifle ban of 1986), and you CONSTANTLY call anyone that disagrees with you a liberal or a libtard. You start those things.

And beecause you throw out ridiculous stuff. "Numbers don't lie." That's something a child would say. What's the other thing about numbers, that 99% of them are made up?

Yeah, even if you're 100% sure the numbers are right, the story they tell is very much dependent upon who is telling it. The way they're used matters.

Reminds me of the old Homer Simpson tiger-repelling rock. I am holding this rock. There are 0 tigers around me. The numbers don't lie, clearly that rock repels tigers.

The data for gun crimes is out there, google is your friend. If you want to ignore that data however and still call for tougher gun laws, then I'm sorry if I disagree. The data is also out there for how opinionated MSNBC is 85% opinion, 15% actual news, I linked to it yesterday.

You're really no better than I beamer, with your constant name calling and pot shots. You're like the perfect example of Hello pot meet kettle.
 
 
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