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46. Re: Out of the Blue Jan 17, 2013, 17:17 Jivaro
Creston wrote on Jan 17, 2013, 15:59:
Jivaro wrote on Jan 17, 2013, 12:04:
I guess I am of the opinion that I don't want the states using a subjective moral compass to decide who is fit to be a teacher and who is not.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they already do that anyways. My wife interviewed with five different teachers, all of whom gave an opinion on whether they liked her or not, and if she'd had one "I don't like her", she wouldn't have gotten the job. (and let's be honest, how is this any different from a corporation refusing to hire someone, or firing them, over a Facebook photo?)

Again, I see the argument, and I don't feel that ex-porn stars should be shunned or anything, but we're not talking about a job as a grocery clerk, we're talking about someone who a community, in essence, expects to raise their children for them.


a) You aren't breaking news to me. I come from a family of teachers, I have taught. I know the system in California particularly well, but in a few other places as well. I am not claiming to be an expert, I have never hired or fired a teacher, but obviously I have quite a bit of the teacher's perspective as part of my life experience.

b) It isn't about a popularity contest. Just like many other jobs you are interviewed by potential co-workers and supervisors as part of a competency screening. Sure, personality and presentation are part of it but none of those teachers can walk out and say "She seems like a bitch, I wouldn't hire her." If they ask questions about how you would handle various scenarios and your answers don't mesh with the policies and philosophies of the school then sure, you aren't getting the job. What your wife went through is not the same as a court deciding on who should be hired and fired based on whether or not a particular judge(s) approves of your previous career. That is letting established and successful employees help the school district find more employees that present themselves in a way that indicates they will also be successful. I guess if there is a similarity, it would be that at least a vocal part of the faculty seems to agree that she should not be teaching at that particular school because they feel her ability to control the classroom is compromised....which means that if they had known she had done porn at the interview process they would have recommended against hiring her.

c) Part of the problem is that parents are expecting teachers to raise their children. Just saying.

Anyway, the decision is made and while I disagree with the court or government enforcing something like this, I would agree that if the school itself and it's faculty agree that she is disruptive to the learning process that it seems counter-productive for her to continue teaching there. After all, they didn't say she couldn't teach, they basically said the school has the right to not have her teach there.

This comment was edited on Jan 17, 2013, 17:32.
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