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62. Re: Fallout 4 Tease? Jan 9, 2013, 22:48 theyarecomingforyou
Jerykk wrote on Jan 9, 2013, 16:34:
So, your primary qualifier for RPGs is... graphics?
I didn't say that, although the dated graphics really didn't help. The point is the entire game came across as more of an expansion than a sequel and by the time I'd got to the end of F3 I wasn't really looking for more of the same. Obviously I wasn't the only person that though NV was lacklustre, as the Metacritic score reflects exactly the same thing.

Jerykk wrote on Jan 9, 2013, 16:34:
FNV is a better RPG than Witcher 2. It is significantly more open-ended, both in terms of quest design and character development.
Are you trying to play semantics here? I couldn't give a shit whether NV had more RPG elements than The Witcher 2, as that wasn't the point I was making. The reality is that TW2 was a MUCH better game, with better graphics, better gameplay and a better delivered narrative. After playing it I couldn't go back to such a dated game like NV, especially after burning out on F3. An RPG isn't defined solely by the amount you can shape the character you play but about the gameplay, narrative and all the trimmings. I'd rather play a great game with slightly diluted RPG elements (like Skyrim, TW2, etc) that a derivative game with dated graphics that has more developed RPG elements (like NV).

Orphic Resonance wrote on Jan 9, 2013, 17:40:
sounds like you havent played it much at all.. the game is easily 4x as big as FO3, in terms of quests and npcs and all the interactions between them.. to me FO3 isnt even worthy of the fallout style of RPG, in the way everything is separate from each other and the various areas and npcs dont relate with each other, just exist in some kind of RPG vacuum like a bunch of instances that are only related thematically... FONV and FO3 are very much different in terms of gameplay, and its easily noticeable
You're right, I haven't played that much. Steam lists my play time as three hours. I really enjoyed F3 but NV just didn't engage me, especially not with the other great games around that time. As I said, I didn't like F3's graphics for the time and NV actually seemed worse somehow; the engine simply wasn't very good. The gameplay was still clunky. And that's not to mention all the bugs, like creatures getting stuck in the environment - issues I didn't have with F3. It's the same with STALKER CoP - I'm a HUGE fan of the series but I was so burnt out after the previous content, and other really good games were released in the meantime, that I just couldn't get into it. Everybody says it's the best in the series but I really didn't enjoy it.

I'll give it another go soon but the game just seemed 'off'. It wasn't as enjoyable as games like Dragon Age: Origins, The Witcher 2 or KOTOR.
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