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17. Re: Evening Legal Briefs Nov 16, 2012, 10:43 InBlack
 
Beamer wrote on Nov 16, 2012, 10:18:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 16, 2012, 10:08:
Beamer wrote on Nov 16, 2012, 07:47:
shihonage wrote on Nov 16, 2012, 02:02:
It's funny how under a "liberal" President America gets all kinds of suspect borderline-dictatory shit, like the airport TSA, surveillance drones, "cybersecurity" bills, constant secrecy, "tzars" that let him game the checks and balances of the system...

Still waiting until people wake up to the fact that Obama is not a classic Liberal but an actual hardcore Leftist, of dictator variety, made of the same cloth as the guys who ruled my former home - the Soviet Union.

"It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed." - Vladimir Lenin

Actually, he's a moderate close to right, like Eisenhower was.

Still waiting for this country to wake up and realize their stupid extremist takes completely clash with history or, honestly, reality.

No one on the right believes in robbing Peter to pay Paul. This is Obama's whole mission, to tax the rich and middle class until the rich get fed up and leave, and the middle class becomes poor, all while spending more money than the guy everyone complained about and voted out of office for spending too much money.

This is your hope and change in action.

Now you're an idiot.

1) OF COURSE THEY DO! What do you think the Reagan tax cuts were? Wealth redistribution! It robbed Peter to pay Paul! Jesus fucking christ, dude. The top 1% had 19.5% of the wealth pre-Reagan. They have 34.5% today. THAT IS GODDAMN WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION! THAT IS ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL! Holy shit you are stupid if you think the right does not believe in wealth distribution

2) OBAMA IS NOT TAXING THE MIDDLE CLASS! Again, holy fucking shit, dude. He is taxing people outside the middle class. Do you know what the average American family, i.e "The Middle" makes? $45,000 per year. Average. That's the middle

3) Do you know where that 15% of the wealth that the top 1% has now that it didn't have in the 1970s came from? It didn't come from the lower class, because they do not have 15% of the wealth. It came from the Middle. It was Reagan's cuts that took money from the middle



It isn't even worth engaging in you if you do not think that the Right took money directly from the middle class and gave it to the upper class. You either lack knowledge of history (likely) or critical thinking ability (also likely) if you use stupid terms like "robbing Peter to pay Paul" without realizing the right fucking did it, too.

I'm convinced you're a) an idiot b) with no knowledge of history and c) no knowledge of percentages. In order for one group to take a higher percentage, another group has to give up their own percentage. It all adds up to 100%. So, in order for the top to take an extra 15%, it has to come from somewhere. It came from you, you idiot. The right redistributed wealth directly from your paycheck to Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. It isn't that you bought something from them, and your money went to them, it is that taxation changes took the money from your paycheck.

But you're also a stupid ass that whines about how so few pay so much of the taxes, ignoring that that same few also takes so much of the income and has so much of the wealth. You're an idiot that thinks that each person should pay an equal amount of taxes but thinks its socialist (rightfully, here) for each person to make an equal amount of income. You're too stupid to realize that if one person makes significantly more of the total income of the country of course he'll pay significantly more in taxes. You compare percent of people to percent of taxes and totally ignore percent of people to percent of income, or even percent of income to percent of taxes.

You do not think. Ever.

If America had 100 people, and 99 of them made $1 each per year, with the last guy making $1MM per year, would you complain if that last guy paid all the taxes? No, it would make absolute sense. But, for some reason, you whine about a comparable (but more complicated) scenario here.

We dont agree on much but this was well said.
 
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