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51. Re: Notch Knocks Win8: Minecraft Certification in Doubt Sep 27, 2012, 14:02 ASeven
Beamer wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:49:
ASeven wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:32:
Beamer wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:18:
PHJF wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:14:
It's about the slippery slope MS now created with Win8, the potential of taking away control from the users.

Most users are not qualified to be IN control of anything other than MSPaint or Minesweeper. 99% of IT work is trying to prevent people doing things or undoing what they've done.

Most don't want to be in control, either. Hence the huge explosion of Apple and Google.
So Microsoft will very happily monetize losing control, because that's what the market demands. We all know what happens to companies that ignore what their consumers want when demand is this overwhelming.

But just because they create a nice little walled-in courtyard for people afraid of the outside world doesn't mean they'll prevent anyone else from venturing out there. As I keep mentioning, businesses could not survive like this. They still rely on legacy software, custom modifications to existing software, etc. Walling off like this would strangle enterprise, which is still the Microsoft bread-and-butter.

You are assuming MS is acting logically or has the interest of customers at heart. If the company's past history shows anything is that they are prone to make some major fuck-ups as well. They are clearly taking the Apple road here and it will get worse, not better, unless Win8 is a major financial failure.

You can only assume they act logically, and having the interest of the consumer and the interest of themselves at heart is the only way to survive.

What you repeatedly ignore is that [b]the bulk of Microsoft's business is enterprise[/b] and that [b]enterprise cannot exist in a walled-in ecosystem.[/b] So if you think Microsoft will cut off their strongest, most reliable, most profitable customers, I'd argue you're not the one being rational.

Now, we may end up with Windows 9 Consumer edition which is walled in and Windows 9 Enterprise which isn't, but is 3x the price, but Microsoft knows they cannot turn their back on enterprise and knows enterprise and walled-in cannot exist together.

Again, companies acting logically only happens in pure Economic Theory. The real world is far different though and companies often act in retarded and illogical way, often very anti-consumer. Publishers are the shining example of that. Also, MS has a lot of past fuck ups that were anything but logical though if you wish to ignore and whitewash them it's your choice.

Beamer wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:51:
ASeven wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:40:
SpectralMeat wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:36:
ASeven wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 12:32:
unless Win8 is a major financial failure.
That is what I am hoping for.

Early signs point to a failure. Time will tell if it is or not.

What "signs?"
Analysts are high. Early previews are high. Most articles written about it in the mainstream media are very pleased.

The hardcore nerds aren't pleased, but we're the minority. It's not being made specifically for us. We'll begrudgingly move on to whatever we need to, and we tend to be very slow adopters of major changes, anyway.

As for this, you answered this yourself.

"What you repeatedly ignore is that [b]the bulk of Microsoft's business is enterprise[/b] and that [b]enterprise cannot exist in a walled-in ecosystem.[/b]"

Corporations, the biggest Windows customer share, have absolutely NO reason to move to Win8. No reason whatsoever. Who cares if reviews and blind to reality analysts think? Sales are what matter. Hell, reviews for Vista were also high and analysts were also high, in more ways than one, and we all know Vista was a financial failure.

So again, the signs are here. Corporations, big and small, have no reason whatsoever to move. Win8 offers nothing new, it takes away more features than it gives in fact. Adoption rate will be lower than Vista more than likely.

But hey, keep on living in fairy land where publishers are doing well and MS always acts logically.
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