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97. Re: Curt Schilling on 38 Studios' Demise Jun 24, 2012, 12:55 Stormsinger
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jun 24, 2012, 12:45:
RollinThundr wrote on Jun 24, 2012, 12:12:
Dades wrote on Jun 24, 2012, 10:47:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jun 24, 2012, 02:09:
I'm simply asking what you're basing your beliefs on this subject on. I don't think that's too much to ask, do you?

He retreats from details at every opportunity and speaks in vague, second hand talking points. I'm starting to doubt he even has beliefs of his choosing. This is the danger of politics really, people so intensely fervent yet they can't even explain how they arrived at that basis. It's yours, own it!

Prez wrote on Jun 24, 2012, 08:19:
The reason I don't get bent out of shape about it is two-fold. First, given that these people are essentially the product of a failed "nanny state" initiative, it is not their fault - it's the fault of the government and society at large that created the dependency in the first place. Secondly, census data shows that at any given time, there are about 1 to 2 million welfare recipients in America. While that's probably too many, given that it's less than 1 percent of the country's population and a great many of that number are certainly not abusing the system, the number almost ends up being too small to worry about.

Precisely. If only people got that worked up over banking deregulation or our burgeoning military spending. I lean pretty far toward the right but we have many people with their political priorities all out of whack. Political tit for tat is the name of the game. People no longer seem to actually understand the things they rail against. It's not about oh I hate the idea of healthcare because insert reason here, its about hating healthcare because the other party likes it. People aren't even in the drivers seat anymore, they form their beliefs based on the oppositions actions, its disgusting.

How is pointing you to google's many cases vague? Listen, you folks can enjoy your nanny state initiatives, and let me know when Barry sends you a mortgage check. I'm over it at this point.
I already told you why. Because those cases don't tell us the extent of the issue or how it affects the budget and economy. I can point to cases of all sorts of crime, but without knowing the statistics behind it, we don't know how bad the problem is. You seem to be going off your gut rather than facts. I certainly don't like the idea of people getting a free ride on my tax dollars either, but I'm looking for the facts about the extent of the problem, not a bunch of ranting, assumptions, and Google anecdotes which seems to be all you're willing to provide.

Unless you'd like to provide us with some evidence that supports your belief that this is such a huge issue, I don't see any reason to continue this. At this point, I don't think you're being even remotely rational.

There never has been any real evidence of the Cadillac-driving welfare queens, you know. And that's all this rant has been, a regurgitation of old, worn-out propaganda. No evidence whatsoever, just complaints about the "other" stealing from him. Straight from Faux News and Limbaugh, style and all.
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