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90. Re: Curt Schilling on 38 Studios' Demise Jun 24, 2012, 02:03 RollinThundr
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jun 24, 2012, 00:37:
RollinThundr wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 23:05:
Do a google search for welfare fraud, look at the 1000's of cases. To pretend it happens to little that it's insignificant is silly. I've said more than a couple times in this thread I have no problem with helping people via social programs that really need it and who do their best to contribute back into the system.
Looking at cases doesn't tell me where you're getting your statistics from. You seem to think it's a large problem. Why do you believe that? Where do you get the numbers? How many cases are there? What percentage are they of the whole?

Then, there's also the question about what to do about it. Are there sensible fixes that can be put into place to improve the system without turning it into a bureaucratic nightmare that is so top-heavy with red tape and layers of review that it becomes a textbook example of an inefficient government program? Can we fix it in ways that don't cost more than they're worth, and don't screw over the people that actually need the help? All your ranting about liberals so far has addressed none of this.

RollinThundr wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 23:05:
I just can't stand the entitlement/PC mentality we have now in the US however. Granted since liberals pretty much run most of the public school systems at this point, I can't say I should be too surprised.
Right, because liberals love welfare fraud. They don't care how many people are mooching off the system, they just want everyone to have whatever they want for free. You really need to get off this kick of generalizing about the beliefs of this vaguely defined group you call "liberals". I notice you weren't too keen on the generalizations about conservatives earlier either. Maybe you should think about it a bit before you slap labels on people. I wonder if you'd consider me a liberal? I mean, we obviously do disagree on some things...

I think it comes from doing IT in a school system and watching kids get constantly coddled left and right. The administration is more worried about bullying rather than actual teaching most of the time.

Not only that but they tend to put the cart before the horse often, most of the computers in this system are nearly 10 years old, years out of warranty, but instead of trying to get grants or using the money in the budget to replace them, they'd rather spend it on infocus projectors and shit like that, that said machines can barely function while using. Constantly using the mantra of "21st century technology!" um no sorry your Pentium 3 800 mhz machines are not 21st century technology.

Dude google is your friend, there's tons and tons and tons of documented welfare fraud out there.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what a solution would be, however between loopholes in the welfare system and loopholes in our current tax code the route we're currently going is not sustainable. We'll end up a Greece type of situation eventually, it's only a matter of time no matter what party is running the show.
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