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63. Re: 38 Studios Closed? May 25, 2012, 02:39 Cutter
 
From your link, yep lets take that extra tax money that the job creators give us, and rather than pay off some debt with it, HEY lets give out more welfare handouts to those that take the most from the system and don't pay a god damn thing into it. BRILLIANT!!

That's not what she's saying. Social services goes far beyond that. And if you recall it was Clinton who made welfare reform a reality. What about all the corporate and military welfare? Why do they get a pass over people who can barely keep a roof over their heads?

Face it cutter, you liberals love to spend other people's money, with zero end in sight.

So I guess the several billion dollars a year in tax subsidies that someone like Exxon gets every year - in spite of record profits - doesn't count, huh? You'd rather have desperate people roaming the streets committing crimes to stay alive? Maybe increasing the already overburdened prison system - of which America has more prisoners both by number and per capita than any other place in the world? Ever heard of the prison-industrial complex? It's the new indentured servitude. You're really cool with that? Hell, I mean everyone wants drugs but the system keeps it illegal? Whatever happened to the market there?

The US has a progressive tax system, the top 1% already pay the most. Unless you want to make a flat rate where everyone pays the same percentage. Wouldn't that be more fair? Everyone pays the same amount in.

No, they don't. And that's the point. Buffet - as an example - made several hundred million a few years ago only paid 17% tax on it whereaas his 100k a year secretary paid 54%. And that's when he started publically speaking out that things were very wrong.

Imagine a flat tax without loopholes where everyone paid 10%. There'd be more than enough to go around.

Socialism doesn't work, it's failed time and time and time and time again and you liberals just can't let it go. Look at Greece, then take a look at where France is headed. FFS people use some god damn logic.

But it does! Just look at places like all the nordic countries where people have a flat tax and criminals fines and such are actually based on on progressive income. You might get a ticket for $100 for speeding which means nothing to someone with huge bank. So that's why they get fined a $1000. Fair means across the board for everyone. And places like Greece are failing because of the corruption of the elites. Look at the standard of living index globally. All these socialist countries are in the top 10, and they're not going broke.

What the hell are you arguing against? A better world for everyone to live in? Cleaner, healthier, fairer,etc? I am using logic. My arguments are posited on verifiable, actual examples. All you're doing it toeing the party line rehashing the same old bullshit that got us into this mess in the first place. Why are you so opposed to working people getting a fair shake? Seriously?! You're an apologist for the blue class. That somehow we're lesser and deserve to be treated like shit. Is that what you want? A new aristocracy? perhaps so that you may have the chance to get up there one day yourself and lord yourself over the small people who don't matter?

America was founded...founded...on the idea of a fair shake. A government of the people, for the people, and by the people, remember that? Otherwise they would have just rolled over and kissed the King's ass and we'd all still be colonies. What the hell do you think so many people have fought and died for the world over for a better life for themselves and family and friends? What the hell do you want? Why is it so hard for you to compromise?

This comment was edited on May 25, 2012, 02:45.
 
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