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52. Re: Origin Auto-Adds Steam EA Games Feb 28, 2012, 13:44 Dev
So do they add it as a "non origin" game shortcut? Or do they actually give you the game in your origin account for free? So you could use origin to download it to another computer?

If you could tell origin where to scan, and it only scanned that, I'd be ok with it, especially if you got free extra copies of games and not just shortcuts. But I'm sure that EA isn't nice like that, they probably scan your whole hdd and just add links.
Alamar wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 10:59:
Either way, I'm sure someone will watch procmon closely and let us (the world) know the results if they find anything...
Some people already have, there's been things linked on blues too I believe (thats why some people say origin is spyware). EA said they were alarmist and didn't actually do any of those things that procmon said they were doing. Well turns out they DO do it, at least the file scanning part.
theyarecomingforyou wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:46:
The serial key itself tells them whether you purchased a game or not. Each key can only be activated once, so pirates cannot "spontaneously have legit copies".
Yeah, keys can only be registered once to an account... well they already ARE registered by me, to steam. And some EA games didn't require registering to an EA account (especially if you didn't care about the extra "bonuses" they gave). If a key only appears on steam, how are they going to tell if its my steam account or someone elses? And if it can only be registered to my origin account once, then that could screw someone out of games if another steam account is logged in. At one point I had multiple EA accounts, so how are they going to verify the ones I've paid for? I can think of all sorts of minefields to prevent me from getting my owned copies or that allow people to get copies they have no rights to.
Burrito of Peace wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 10:50:
What are the margins for selling console titles versus PC titles sold over digital distribution? Probably much lower, I'd imagine, given the physical production costs, certification costs and those very expensive "development" consoles. It therefore stands to reason that you'd want to sell as many copies as possible to the PC market via digital distribution.
If you check the math, bethesda makes about twice as much on each PC copy sold on steam at $60 as they do selling a retail console copy at gamestop for $60. As a platform, going by EA $'s, PC sales can often come close to matching one other platform (xbox 360 or PS3), but not both together.
Creston wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 11:35:
Oh yeah, they could put in their EULA that they have the right to come over whenever they want to
MS VLK eula's actually DO say they have a right to come inspect your business whenever they want for compliance. They can and will fine businesses for having extra copies beyond the VLK allowance. If a business refuses the fine, MS can refuse permission for that company to use any MS titles, or take other steps. There's even an 800 number to call and report an employer not in compliance with license allowances, complete with cash rewards. This is even occasionally advertised on local radio stations.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 28, 2012, 12:41:
Look for ergc that's where it stores the keys. Only reason why I know is because I ended up writing a set of registry keys and a .net app(prolly lost to the wind now) for people for their ME games to fix the damned registry problem for ME/pinnacle station and BDtS. Also it looks for keys in two different places in ME case, which is part of the problem.

It's either hkey_users or hkey_currentusers along with the Win6432node not at home so I can't check.
I'm sure those bugs will hit me next time I try to play Mass Effect 1. I never tried it with the DLC although I bought the DLC when it went on sale after I played ME1.

This comment was edited on Feb 28, 2012, 14:09.
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