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96. Re: On Dark Athena DRM Apr 10, 2009, 17:17 StingingVelvet
 
I agree that capitalism is the most effective economic system thus far. However, morality isn't part of the equation. The goal in capitalism is to make as much money as possible and that usually entails a distinct lack of morality, as evident by Atari's use of DRM.

The only thing I can do on this score is point you toward Oliver Stone's Wall Street. There is certainly a morality within capitalism, and the fact that some people go againt that is no reason to do it yourself.

I've downloaded games to try them out and I've downloaded games no one sells anywhere anymore, but the one thing I will not do is download a game I enjoy, play it and have a good time, and give the developer nothing for their effort. It's just wrong on a basic and fundemental level, but it doesn't surprise me some people can't see that... I see people like that everyday. They're especially grating when they make fun of me for paying for music/games/movies/pornography.

A fundamental aspect of capitalism is giving people a reason to give you money. DRM doesn't do this and instead gives a people a reason not to give you money.

Then don't buy the game, but also don't download the game. I don't have any problem with that. I simply said for ME, personally, supporting the developers and the PC as a platform is more important than boycotting DRM I can get around anyway. If boycotting DRM is more important to you then fine, do that. All I am asking is you don't download the game either.

Deserve? This isn't a matter of what deserves to happen. From what I've read, Titan Quest is a solid Diablo-clone that fans of Diablo would probably enjoy. However, what deserves to happen is rarely what actually happens. PC's deserve to the lead platform for gaming but they aren't. Space sims and adventure games deserve attention from American publishers but that doesn't happen. PC games deserve the same amount of marketing as console games but that doesn't happen. Did Iron Lore deserve better? Sure. But in capitalism, it isn't about what you deserve, it's about what you get and Iron Lore didn't get enough consumers interested in their games.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean in regards to our debate... I completely agree with what you said here. All I ever said about Iron Lore was that piracy hurt their sales on some level, that level probably able to be debated, but more importantly it probably impacted their closing up shop on a psychological level.

Being in business is about offering a service people WANT to pay for, not a service that people should pay for and don't. If people aren't paying you for your services you need to offer better services. You can try and offer the same services with more restrictions but it doesn't seem wise to expect people to suddenly want to pay for your services when you make them more restricted...

The problem is that no matter how great your product or service, millions of asshats are going to steal it anyway. I'm 29 years old and I don't know anyone in my age bracket who buys their music other than one guy in college who collected LPs. My girlfriend is only 22 and none of her friends buy anything, music, movies of games. It has nothing to do with the quality of the service, no matter what people say... sure, they come up with lovely excuses like "music is overpriced," which is insane, "movies suck now-a-days," so then why are you watching them, and "dumbed down for consoles!"

People are just ignorant of how the world works and want their shit for free. Begging them to please pay for my product is asinine and shouldn't need to be done. I see people talk about how Blizzard and Valve are the only companies they don't pirate the games of because they "get" PC gamers and I think "really? I need to win a personality contest now to win the privledge of getting paid for the work I did that you enjoyed the results of?" Fuck that.

This comment was edited on Apr 10, 2009, 17:20.
 
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