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42. Re: No subject Dec 15, 2005, 17:16 Pedle Zelnip
 
Actually, the whole thing is laughable. As a born citizen of the US, I really could give 2 shits about Canada (Even being in MN). But I don't see politicians in the US bad mouthing Canada just to get elected. I was under the impression we were neighbors and should at least TRY and work together on policy. But hey, what do I know. But then again, Canada failed to show support for Iraq, which is here some of it may stem from. I doubt terrorists give 2 shits about Canada either - but if the did, and something happened, I guess we should just stand by and say, "well doesn't that suck?"

That is one of the biggest inflamitory trolling posts I've seen in quite some time, so I think I'll just leave well enough alone.

I think it has less to do with Iraq and more to do with trade issues ... You'll notice that most of the posturing by Prime Minister Martin was done from the west for the west.

Very good point.

The US has also diverted a little bit from Canada post 9/11, in terms of domestic policy and values. The Patriot Act and Iraq only further alienate Canadians. Also, there seems to be a shift in the US towards Christian conservative values. Most Canadians are more concerned about Kyoto than censorship and limiting abortion rights.

Also very good points. To be fair though you could easily say that it's Canada who has diverted from the US rather than the other way around.

So, an anti-US platform is to be expected by most Canadian politicians

Actually I disagree about that, if you listen to Stephen Harper* talk, he seems quite committed to strengthening Canada/US relations, and while that won't be the big push of his platform I'm sure rhetoric to the effect of "we need to improve relations and work with the US to solve trade issues like softwood" will be a part of it.

* - For those of you who don't follow Canadian politics, Harper is the leader of the Conservative party, which is the Liberal parties biggest opponent.

... they have been mired in a scandal about misappropriation of tax payer money. And a lot of the patriotic rhetoric has been a nice distraction.

Perhaps. I don't think anti-US rhetoric is going to win over most voters though. I've myself been very critical of the Bush administration's stance on many issues, and I have voted Liberal in the past, but it's going to take a hell of a lot more than generic anti-US rhetoric for the Liberals to earn my vote in January (actually I've already decided who I'm voting for and it isn't the Liberals).

One might argue that it is something of Liberal party tradition to be somewhat confrontational with the reigning powers of the US. Trudeau and Chretien weren't exactly busom buddies with Reagan and Clinton (or Bush).


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Reading: J.D. Salinger's "Catcher in the Rye"
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