I have no problems with ut2004... got my moneys worth, the game was polished ..few bugs etc.
2004 did not have the same magic as the first UT but it's d@mn good! With those nods you actually see team play unlike what we see in most games. I'm 31 & i can still handle the twitch fest even though i don't find it that fast. A good driving game requires as much fast twitch fibers as deathmatch in UT2004 so unless i want to be stuck playing sims & tycoon games for the rest of my days i have to keep those twitch fibers active
IF who ever makes the UT games listens to the online community & gamers in general the next UT should bring the franchise back to it's good old glory days.