HL2 or Doom3 you are a frigin idiot. You have no idea when these games are coming out. Video card prices are going to remain stagnant, for the most part, until one of those games are released. And once that happens there is going to be a vid card war that makes the 3DFX Vs Nvidea war look like a joke. Prediction: One month after the release of either game, the price of both ATI's and Nvidea's state of the art cards will be cut in half, perhaps more.