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719. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 30, 2013, 21:36 RollinThundr
 
Prez wrote on Oct 30, 2013, 19:46:
RT, you can call me a libtard or Obama apologist but on the subject of the ACA I honestly don't see enough evidence to prove that the ACA naysayers were right as you are claiming. Okay, so the rollout has been embarrassingly disastrous and indicates some serious incompetence in at least part of Obama's administration, but the piss-poor rollout in and of itself doesn't prove the whole program a failure. That determination will take some time. You can cite evidence of cases where people have been notified they are being dropped by their insurance carriers, and others where people have seen premium increases, but as of yet I don't think it is widespread enough to claim some sort of weird "victory".

Make no mistake - I don't have much faith in government. I am not at all surprised by the botched launch nor will I be shocked if the ACA ultimately fails and implodes. But the difference between you and me is that I am hoping that somehow it succeeds in fixing (at least in part) our woefully broken system; you on the other hand are rooting for its failure so we can go back to our hopelessly broken system.

Pres, I actually respect you unlike some other people on this site. You post well thought out opinions and don't sling bullshit just to sling it.

Personally like I've said, I don't think anything the government can do in regards to healthcare is ever going to be better than what the private sector could do with proper regulation.

I think a lot of people forget we in the US have the best and most advanced healthcare in the world, research and development also isn't cheap.

Do I think big pharma makes too much money? Yes I do, they also have quite the lobbying power which is why the healthcare industry has been able to get away with charging more than they realistic should.

I don't see that changing ACA or no ACA. Because at this point in time the "Afordable heath care act" is anything but affordable, and the only people it benefits are people that don't and haven't paid into the system in the first place on the backs of those of us who do. it's like welfare in healthcare form. And you surely by now know how I feel about welfare.
 
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