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463. Re: Morning Metaverse Oct 26, 2013, 17:33 Wowbagger_TIP
 
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
It's forcing a service by federal mandate, they're abusing the commerce clause by calling it a tax. Period, end of fucking story.
No, the end of the story is that it IS a tax, as the USSC confirmed. That's how it's implemented, therefore that's what it is.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Neither do you, Obama or any president for that matter, CANNOT redefine rights that are protected by the Constitution, which is an anti evolutionary device drafted to prevent mob mentality deciding how to redefine the laws of the land. The bullshit line that it's a living evolving document is just that, total and outright bullshit.
Maybe come up with something specific rather than just ranting. Which proposal violates the 2nd Amendment, and how?

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 26, 2013, 16:53:
Self defense is self defense, the Zimmerman case had zero to do with stand your ground, the media circus made it about stand your ground when it had zero to do with the case in reality. That does not excuse Obama's comments on it, or on Martin to try and tug at heart strings or sway people to make him look like a victim. It was an unprecedented thing for a POTUS to do to begin with.
I don't recall saying anything about SYG in my post. Once again, you're not reading the actual post, but just creating a straw man. Martin was a victim of homicide. Whether it was justified or not, we'll never know. Obama has just as much right to speak his mind as any other citizen. That's one of those Amendments you're always talking about, remember? You don't have to agree with him, but aside from calling for re-evaluation of SYG laws (which weren't really a factor here), I don't see anything wrong with his comments.
 
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