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118. Re: Internet abandons the US Oct 15, 2013, 16:01 RollinThundr
Verno wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 15:45:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 15:31:
They're all interconnected Verno, I keep saying it over and over. It all comes down to personal responsibility. It's on you to get education, it's on you to get a job, etc etc. This includes healthcare, you want decent health care? GO GET A FUCKING JOB.

No, it's offtopic ranting that has little to do with the ACA or health care itself. The fact that you totally fail to see your own circular logic is just amusement icing on the cake though. You can't get a decent job if you're sick and you can't get better without health care. Let's also ignore the people who lose their coverage due to no fault of their own like a company going belly up or the economy tanking. That's totally ignoring special cases who are often dropped or excluded from health care due to financial profiteering. Forgetting all of that though on a basic level we have a society of people for a reason, it's not a collection of individuals but a society presumably working towards commonly governed goals. People can't be functional in society without their health and create a much larger strain on our nations finances than providing coverage does.

The idea that birth grants you a free ride just because a bunch of liberals base everything off of fucking feelings is ridiculous. What's more ridiculous is anyone with a brain cell buying into it.

Yes how ridiculous that people have a right to be alive and healthy in society, those damned liberals.

I think you're reading into what I'm saying more than needed. I said earlier on the topic of abortions, if it's rape, or there's a serious medical reason that's one thing. Often it's a convenience thing, ie it's easier to abort than spend the next 18 years caring for a life tha isn't your own. That I have issue with. But society has for whatever reason decided that's ok. Why, I have no fucking clue.

If you have a medical condition that prevents you from working that's something completely different. That's not the same as people who are capable of working who don't and instead live of the rest of us, pretending there's only a couple who do that, is about as naive as you can get.

I get healthcare provided by my employer, and it's done nothing but steadily go up. More so WITH the introduction of Obamacare, sorry if that raises some flags for me especially with how against the people this administration seems to be.

Remember too Verno, I live in mass, I know the perils of Romneycare already, it's total shit.
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