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68. Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 14, 2013, 11:30 PHJF

Also, the strongest connection between science and religion is that they both ultimately rely on blind faith.

It is faith to a degree, but to say it is blind is completely disingenuous. Science is in essence experimentation repeated until a clearly predictable result is defined. Expecting a clearly predictable result is not "blind faith".

And allow me to clarify belief:

As an atheist, I don't believe in a god. As an atheist, I don't believe there is no god. I also don't believe there are flying pigs (on this planet), I don't believe NASA faked the moon landing, and I don't believe in bigfoot. Belief isn't an acceptable way to arrive at conclusions. I would instead say that, given the lack of evidence to support a given claim, this conclusion is unlikely to be true. I wouldn't have arrived at that conclusion from blind faith but from inductive or deductive reasoning (which I learned in the 8th grade). And a big part of atheism is in burden of proof. It is not my job to disprove the existence of god

Science has more evidence, and science is significantly less stupid, but if you follow its trail to the end you get to blind faith.

No. We don't know the end (if there even is one) of the trail. We are tiny, tiny beings on a tiny planet in a smudge of a solar system in the ass end of a galaxy in the middle of an inconceivably large universe. And that's just on the macro scale. We are learning new things on the subatomic scale. And what we learn from science directly improves our quality of life, whereas religion's only practical function is to give people hope. On the other hand most religions tell people faith is good whereas my entire k-12 and post-secondary education told me that was horseshit and that whenever something was unknown I should either research or experiment or use a proof to come to a (reasonable) answer. Again, one of these systems is practical. The other is less than worthless. I don't have faith because I have a brain.

Science has given us so much and will give us so much more. The powers to create, the powers to destroy, the powers to manipulate on any scale. Science will make gods of men. At least until some still-superior species from some distant planet comes and squishes us, anyways.

Anyways, I don't have a problem with belief in higher power or alien conspiracies or tales of sasquatches and yetis. They are by themselves harmless. When religious people get together and start pushing agendas, though, we have a serious problem. Doctrines professing either faith or reason/logic are diametrically opposed. They can't coexist forever. And the day faith wins over thought is the day the human race effectively begins to wither and die.

Actually, that already happened back in the Dark Ages. Ironically it was monks who painstakingly preserved what knowledge humanity had by then accumulated.
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