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45. Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 13, 2013, 21:50 Beamer
 
PHJF wrote on Mar 13, 2013, 20:48:
Untrue. Agnostics don't believe in anything. Atheisms believe that there are no gods.
Still a belief.

You are arguing semantics and still coming up wrong.

Straight from Encyclopedia Britannica:

Comprehensive definition of atheism

Reflection on this should lead to a more adequate statement of what atheism is and indeed as well to what an agnostic or religious response to atheism should be. Instead of saying that an atheist is someone who believes that it is false or probably false that there is a God, a more adequate characterization of atheism consists in the more complex claim that to be an atheist is to be someone who rejects belief in God for the following reasons (which reason is stressed depends on how God is being conceived): for an anthropomorphic God, the atheist rejects belief in God because it is false or probably false that there is a God; for a nonanthropomorphic God (the God of Luther and Calvin, Aquinas, and Maimonides), he rejects belief in God because the concept of such a God is either meaningless, unintelligible, contradictory, incomprehensible, or incoherent; for the God portrayed by some modern or contemporary theologians or philosophers, he rejects belief in God because the concept of God in question is such that it merely masks an atheistic substance; e.g., “God” is just another name for love, or “God” is simply a symbolic term for moral ideals.

"More adequate" doesn't mean I'm wrong. "Rejects the belief of gods" isn't mutually exclusive from "believes there are no gods."

Dawkins is 100% belief.
 
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