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14. Re: Sunday Safety Dance Feb 12, 2013, 08:48 RollinThundr
 
SmyTTor wrote on Feb 12, 2013, 01:14:
RollinThundr wrote on Feb 11, 2013, 13:51:

Jdreyer, you seem like a pretty rational guy, why for the love of god would you prefer a party that wants to turn the US into a 3rd world shithole of socialism and make everyone overly reliant on government while bankrupting us in the process? aka see Greece.


I guess you aren't too big on data or facts. When Republicans held the presidency and had control of congress, rights of citizens were lessened and rights of corporations expanded while deficits and spending went off the charts. Under Democratic presidencies and congressional control the deficits have either been, recently, dramatically lessened or produced the staggering effect of a surplus of funds.

I would suggest you dial back on the FOX News agitprops.

As for the most ludicrous 'turn US into Greece' meme certain ideologues try to mainstream (see, proper use of quotes!), I am not sure anyone with a minor grasp of economics other than those of Strauss would even bother listening to it. As a matter of fact, doing what conservatives currently suggest would take the US economy on a fast track towards what Greece IS rather than growing the overall economy.

If you want to see how austerity cannot only stop but damage an economy's recovery, all you need do is look at what is happening to European nations that decided to stop investing in their commonwealths and cut, cut, cut. I feel sorry for England- talk about shooting yourself in the face- err foot. A country with no debt, a world leading currency rate, bodies jumping to lend money at next to zero interest, and rather than invest and stimulate their economy they cut hard.

Or you can learn from history, back when Roosevelt listened to Republicans in 1937 in the recovery from the Great Depression where he decided to acquiesce to austerity measures, greatly stunting what was record breaking growth until removing them.

Boom goes the dynamite.


the patriot act, which Obama expanded actually. I doubt Bush had the idea of drones patrolling US skies, but Obama took care of that. As for the economy there are more unemployed people now, then when Obama first took office in 2009. So much for that hope and change Disney land feel good story huh?

Barry got all the tax increases he wanted, he's still not managed to cut anything that will make a difference in regards to our debt. All while growing government.

The Great Depression would have been half as long if the Government had let the market correct itself, but as usual big government had to meddle and prolong it.

 
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