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Borderlands 2 Racism Discussion

Kotaku has a running summary of an discussion taking place over twitter over whether the Tiny Tina character in Borderlands 2 is racist, based on the white character's use of clichéd African-American slang. Some have expressed the opinion that this is "verbal blackface," and after originally resisting, lead writer Anthony Burch moved on to try to expand the discussion to see if he needed to re-work the character's dialog in future releases. Randy Pitchford's take on this is that it's not racist as long as it was not written by a racist: "@reverendanthony tina is not racist because you are not racist. You're a pillar of tolerance and inclusion." Thanks nin.

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115. Re: Borderlands 2 Racism Discussion Feb 5, 2013, 09:45 Quinn
RollinThundr wrote on Feb 5, 2013, 08:13:
Quinn wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 20:37:
Beamer wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 18:40:
RollinThundr wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 14:39:
Beamer wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 14:26:
RollinThundr wrote on Feb 4, 2013, 14:08:
Just out of curiosity what term would that be that's racist? Why is it only racist if a white person uses said term when black people use it towards each other all the time?


Seriously, you're asking questions a child would ask.

Do you have any inside jokes with your family? Maybe your brother eats a lot, and you all make fun of him being fat. It's light-hearted, and you all appreciate it. But if someone outside your family were to call him fat, you'd probably take offense.

You're also ignoring context. The word is derogatory. No one will deny that. And, historically, it was used derogatorily by one race against another.

While it's probably not good for people of the one race to use it, it's absolutely not good for people of the other.

That you're even asking this shows that you've put no thought into understanding why the word is considered offensive and hurtful to some. But that's no surprise - you're one of those people that cares more about your ability to do something and takes great offense to someone saying you shouldn't and puts no care into thinking about why people ask you don't do something. You care only about rights and not about using those rights responsibly.

No I get it, I just hate the double standard is all. That and I love getting your panties in a bunch.

Life is full of double standards, idiot. Everywhere.

The real problem is that whole "family" bullshit. It makes sense in your analogy, Beamer, but for black people to still consider eachother family like that is so 1865. It's exactly that attitude that makes me feel different than many of them: not the colour, but that goddamned "you're my bro and ha ha ha lets laugh at the dancing patterns of white folk.".

Just grow the fuck up and let me be your bro, cause you'd be a mate of mine whatever colour you are.

I dunno to me it doesn't make sense at all. If you're going to get offended at one person calling you a particular word with no ill will meant just due to skin color, you should also get offended when someone of the same skin color uses it. Because to me, that's just racism towards whites. But then again that seems to be allowed and even encouraged. Slavery ended a long time ago, however you wouldn't know it the way some people go about it.

I partially agree with you except for the first part. The word "nigger", for example, was a very downgrading term toward a race the white people considered worthy of nothing but being slaves. I understand black people can call eachother that but get pissed off when white people say it. Imagine the same history, but with the blacks oppressing the whites. They called us "schnitzels". Understandably, we understand the pun of the joke if we white folks call eachother schnitzels... but imagine a black person calling you a schnitzel! You understand he's not meaning it but seriously... show some goddamn respect!? Right!?

Beamer wrote on Feb 5, 2013, 08:39:

You always find more affinity to those you know have been through the same experiences you have.

And, although many white people on this board repeatedly try to deny it, growing up black in this country puts you through very different experiences than growing up white.

Oh no you di'nt! I'm sorry man but it's that thing right there that's the root of the problem these days. YOU should stop seeing them as victims and so should THEY. Only the cavemen of today don't treat black people as equels. Cavemen can be ignored, for they are ignorent, extremely dumb and very few.
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