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57. Re: This Dec 17, 2012, 11:20 John
 
jdreyer wrote on Dec 15, 2012, 16:10:
So, what to do? Can't we agree that a 10-day waiting period and extensive background check to purchase a gun should be the bare minimum nation-wide? Can't we agree that we should properly fund mental healthcare so people with problems can be identified and assisted instead of left to fester? Can't we agree to close the gun show loophole?
Ok, so how would that have made a difference in this case? And if he had bought the guns himself, would a 10-day background check kept him from getting them? There are a lot of crazy people who aren't labeled as being so. You gotta be pretty messed up to shoot your own mother.. not to mention defenseless children.. but who could have predicted that?

Gun regulations correlate with lower gun violence. That's just a fact. And in countries where gun ownership is prohibited (China) or very strictly regulated (Japan, UK) not only are gun murders orders of magnitude lower, but also murders overall.

A school attack in China happened yesterday too. The attacker used a knife. 20 children were injured but no one died. If he had access to guns, that would obviously be different.
That's because guns have been prohibited there for many years and they never had millions of them in their country. Of course there are fewer gun-related deaths when no one in the country owns any. People have always owned gun in the US however and there is no way to get rid of them now.

"More people should have guns to protect themselves." Lanza's mother did. He took it and shot her, then shot 20 kindergartners.
That was her fault for having them where her son could get to them. Any parent with guns should keep them locked away from their children.

"Teachers should carry. They could have shot the shooter." And if they had and missed and shot a child? And the cost would be much greater: How many carrying teachers nationwide would lose their tempers and shoot coworkers and students over the course of a year? Just like more cars on the road lead to more accidents, so to do more guns in the population lead to more deaths, regardless of the noble purpose. Humans are irrational, and supplying irrational beings with a force multiplier results in multiple times the force, injuries, and death.
I don't think teachers should carry, but it would be good to have a security guard in the school or have the principle trained to use a gun. And actually deaths on the road have gone down even though there are more because of laws requiring more safety features in cars. That can be true with gun deaths too with the right laws but it's not so easy to enforce what people do at home.
 
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