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29. Re: Evening Consolidation Aug 6, 2012, 23:50 Beamer
wtf_man wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 23:37:
Beamer wrote on Aug 6, 2012, 23:21:
2GB RAM, 80GB HDD, and more likely than not a PSU built to power exactly the components it includes and would not be able to run that GPU.

The point was that it was an entry gaming system. Just like a console, where you buy extra controllers and such, eventually you would need to beef up the weaknesses of the PC listed. 4GB of ram is pretty cheap, and so is a bigger hard drive.

As for the PSU, there's probably plenty of room for that GPU. We have budget GPUs in similar Optiplex models at work, driving 2 to 3 monitors. The cards were added in later... not bought with the systems.

Heck... even a beefier base $400 - $500 system would be better than a console, IMO... but I was trying to keep it near average console cost. One really doesn't need a $2000 system anymore to decently play games on a PC.

No, but recommending a $200 refurb Dell workstation with some off-the-shelf pieces that would likely blow the PSU up comes across less like a real recommendation and more like that guy that sits around at GameStop and goes "real gamers play PC. Why would you want to buy a console and play with all your friends when you can get this for the same price. Sure, it has no warranty, is likely to explode, and all your friends are on XBL, but this makes you a man!"

A quick Google shows that the Optiplex you linked has a 305W PSU and no room for a dual-slot card or anything passively cooled. And 2GB of RAM doesn't leave much room for anything other than Windows 7. Yes, you can upgrade the RAM, the HDD, the GPU and probably the PSU, but then you've built a Frankenstein refurb system when part of the appeal of a console to most people is that they take it home, plug in 2 cords and are playing. No drivers, no screwdrivers, no sharp corners, no praying that Dell left any of the connectors long enough to reach anywhere, etc.
Those of us that enjoy taking some time to build something are rare. Most people want something that just works, and they're willing to pay a premium for it.
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