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The Old Republic EP Leaves; Other Staff Cuts?

Rich Vogel has left BioWare, where he was serving as executive producer on Star Wars: The Old Republic, reports Gamasutra, where they say their attempts to get a comment from BioWare or EA on the reasons for this have so far been unsuccessful. They also say this news comes amid rumors of layoffs at BioWare Austin, but it is not clear whether these reports of job losses at the developer of the Star Wars MMORPG are related to the cuts announced in May, though Gamasutra adds it "understands that Vogel's departure preceded the purported layoffs." Thanks Joao.

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46. Re: The Old Republic EP Leaves; Other Staff Cuts? Jul 18, 2012, 09:27 wtf_man
PropheT wrote on Jul 17, 2012, 22:57:
There's millions of people playing WoW, still over a million in TOR last I heard, Rift has a large playerbase, EVE has subscriptions, TERA, The Secret World, and a lot of the games people talk about being free to play have them too.

I believe the original quote from Carcifier was:
You aren't going to get people to sign up for 15 bucks a month unless it's a new game that absolutely revolutionizes the genre and blows away WOW.

And for the most part I have to agree with that. We're talking NEW MMOs in a saturated market that has a fairly stale and copied platform.

Established games are able to keep their subscriptions, for the most part, if they are good games and have a customer base that has invested a lot of time on their characters. New MMO's do not have this luxury, and I would have to say a large majority have played MMOs before, and are sick of the same old shit... and are unwilling to pay a fee for the same old shit. So, Carcifier was correct, for the most part... there needs to be a paradigm shift in the genre before mass amounts of people are willing to pay a sustained fee in this day and age. (Key word being sustained)

Now, back to TOR. Yes, it HAD a million subscribers... but Bioware and EA have been doing everything they can to fudge the numbers to make it look like they have sustained that. They just consolidated 140 servers down to about 12. I highly doubt they have anywhere near 1 million subscribers anymore, given that kind of drop in their server numbers.

So, if TOR is truly "WoW in Space", why did it not grow to 14+ million subscribers? Because Carcifier is right, for the most part... Most people are unwilling to pay a monthly fee for the same old shit, with different paint.... especially for the long term. MMOs NEED long term subscribers to survive, if they are going to use the subscription model. TOR hasn't broken even, and that is with the most conservative "rumored numbers" out there for their development costs, marketing, and operational costs. It is bleeding cash and subscription numbers. All of the games you mentioned will go F2P in the near future or die, except maybe Eve... but again... that's an established indie MMO.

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