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18. Re: etc, etc. Apr 10, 2012, 08:31 NKD
JohnBirshire wrote on Apr 10, 2012, 07:10:
That's the stupidest argument I've ever heard, people who make it are idiots. The only thing people don't buy and sell used are condoms and toilet paper. If you want to put video games in the same category as them, go right ahead. However, arguing that I can't sell something I bought because the developers would make more money if I didn't is asinine. I guess I should burn my house down and have the builder make me a new one instead of selling, trash my used car and only buy new, etc etc etc. Ridiculous and absurd.

What's ridiculous and absurd is your long string of ad hominem, strawmen, and slippery slopes. I never argued that you shouldn't be able to sell something you bought. In fact, I specifically said the opposite, that I'd like for people to be able to sell to each other without allowing businesses to abuse the right to the detriment of the developer. Your entire post is an angry illogical rant. You may want to calm down before continuing the discussion.

Vampires like LameStop go out of their way to abuse a right we enjoy. In very few industry do Used and New share point of sale so prominently, with the clerk trying very hard to sell you used instead of new. In most industries, there are also far more incentives to buy new, such as warranty coverage, less physical wear-and-tear, and so on. The margins are often better SELLING new products as well, because in most other industries the gap in price between buying a used product and reselling it is much lower. Usually the margin is under 40%. For used games, it's very different, and that's why LameStop pushes it so vigorously.

LameStop takes advantage of the fact that a used game is little different from a new game by keeping used game prices very near new game prices, and offering only IN-STORE reimbursement for a selling them a used game. They can pull in 100% pure profit by buying someones used game and reselling it. The seller gets nothing, the developer gets nothing, and the buyer gets raped.

Again, I never argued that we shouldn't be able to sell used games, but the games industry and other industries are not the same, and because of that there will eventually be a used games crackdown. LameStop and friends have abused the right very severely and are seriously impacting the income publishers and developers derive from sales.

It IS costing them money. It IS a serious issue for them. And it IS going to hurt us all in the long run when they lock down titles to a single machine.
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