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Re: Evening Consolidation

Apr 27, 2011, 12:57

Verno

Krovven wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 12:27:
Sony is at fault for how they are dealing with the situation. Sony is not at fault for some scum hacker breaking into the network and stealing information.

It was a dick move on Sony's part to pull multi OS support from the PS3, and it's being battled out in the courts. There is no excuse for the punk that broke into PSN and stole user information.

I agree that they have handled it poorly so far but disagree on the responsibility portion. They definitely share the blame for someone breaking into their network. Not the act itself but some of the damage derived therein depending how it was accomplished. We may absolve them of wrongdoing personally but they absolutely share responsibility for personal and financial information being stolen from them. These attacks happen, it's a known quantity, there's a reason there are established standards by payment processors and in some countries legal restrictions related to how the data is stored and disseminated. The hacker dickheads if discovered get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law thankfully.

If someone walks into my house and I left the door open then well, I'm a moron but he's still breaking and entering. If someone walks into my store and I left easy access to the POS terminal then it's a whole different ballgame. If nothing else the payment processors will hold them responsible hopefully.

I'm not going to jump to conclusions and assume Sony did not do it's due diligence in keeping the network protected, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't.

I don't give them any real credibility in this area personally, if anything I'd give them less considering they haven't had the benefit of experience in this area like Microsoft. This is the company who literally took a random number generator and made it not random, by hand which in turn lead to the console being exploited. They haven't really shown any competency in network design either so far. I see no evidence of a true failover network and apparently their dev network is down because it was running on production resources. It's even more apparent given the scope of the information stolen that they haven't been in full compliance with PCI/ISO standards. That's without going into why they were keeping this much information in plain text or unsalted hashes.

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Comment [quote="Verno"Apr 27, 2011, 12:57][quote="Krovven"Apr 27, 2011, 12:27] Sony is at fault for how they are dealing with the situation. Sony is not at fault for some scum hacker breaking into the network and stealing information. It was a dick move on Sony's part to pull multi OS support from the PS3, and it's being battled out in the courts. There is no excuse for the punk that broke into PSN and stole user information.[/quote] I agree that they have handled it poorly so far but disagree on the responsibility portion. They definitely share the blame for someone breaking into their network. Not the act itself but some of the damage derived therein depending how it was accomplished. We may absolve them of wrongdoing personally but they absolutely share responsibility for personal and financial information being stolen from them. These attacks happen, it's a known quantity, there's a reason there are established standards by payment processors and in some countries legal restrictions related to how the data is stored and disseminated. The hacker dickheads if discovered get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law thankfully. If someone walks into my house and I left the door open then well, I'm a moron but he's still breaking and entering. If someone walks into my store and I left easy access to the POS terminal then it's a whole different ballgame. If nothing else the payment processors will hold them responsible hopefully. q[I'm not going to jump to conclusions and assume Sony did not do it's due diligence in keeping the network protected, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't. ]q I don't give them any real credibility in this area personally, if anything I'd give them less considering they haven't had the benefit of experience in this area like Microsoft. This is the company who literally took a random number generator and made it not random, by hand which in turn lead to the console being exploited. They haven't really shown any competency in network design either so far. I see no evidence of a true failover network and apparently their dev network is down because it was running on production resources. It's even more apparent given the scope of the information stolen that they haven't been in full compliance with PCI/ISO standards. That's without going into why they were keeping this much information in plain text or unsalted hashes. [/quote]

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