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There's a thread on the BioWare Social Network started by someone who had to create a new account to post there, because his original account is still enduring a 72-hour suspension for what was deemed an inappropriate forum post (he says he agrees he deserved the forum suspension for posting "Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?"). In a surprising turn, he says that besides keeping him from being able to post to the forums, the temporary ban is preventing him from activating his copy of Dragon Age II, which, as noted on Kotaku (thanks nin), is especially odd, since this is a single-player game. There was a similar story in 2008 that resulted in EA explicitly denying that forum offenders were being banned from games, but this thread concludes with a moderator explaining that under certain circumstances, an EA forum ban can indeed prevent access to your games: Please review the EA Community Terms of Service, particularly sections #9 and #11. There are two levels of enforcement here:
1. BioWare community bans are forum-only and can be for as little as 24 hours. These bans should have no effect on your game, only your ability to use all the features of this website/community. these bans are handed out by BioWare Moderators as the result of our travels around the forum and/or issues reported by fellow community members.
2. EA Community bans come down from a different department and are the result of someone hitting the REPORT POST button. These bans can affect access to your game and/or DLC.
Because the BioWare community now operates under the same umbrella as all EA Communities, community members here have all explicitly agreed to abide by and be governed by both sets of rules. Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow.
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Re: EA Forum Ban Prevents Game Access? |
Mar 11, 2011, 15:12 |
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ASeven wrote on Mar 11, 2011, 15:03:
Dirwulf wrote on Mar 11, 2011, 13:45:
While I understand this is a single player game, Blizzard does the same thing. You can get banned in game for a forum post. I'll also argue, like the game companies do, you don't actually "own" the game, you own a license to use it. You agreed to that when you took the shrink wrap off, just like it states on the box, or in the digital license agreement that you checked before your purchase went through.
I agreed to jackshit and anyone who keeps mouthing that EULA's are enforceable should stop sucking corporate dick. EULAs are NOT enforceable, in fact they often go against something that is enforceable, it's called law. What EA has done may actually bring EULAs to a court of law though and I hope they do.
EULA carry no legal weight, plain and simple. Only the simple minded or those lacking any sort of legal knowledge think otherwise, but that's the average gamer.
And here is Blizzard winning a lawsuit for EULA violation...one of many they have won...
http://wow.joystiq.com/2008/07/15/blizzard-wins-lawsuit-against-bot-makers/
Edit: More proof of EULA enforcement and Blizzard winning.
This is 2004 suit that Blizzard filed against the developers of bnetd. One of the interesting points is the court findings starting on page 17 about whether the EULA and TOS were binding contracts. I have been seeing a lot of posts saying they are not, the court ruled that they in fact are legal contracts. This ruling was later upheld under appeal.
http://www.eff.org/IP/Emulation/Blizzard_v_bnetd/20040930BNETDOrder.pdf
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