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18. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Jun 18, 2013, 15:00 RollinThundr
Bodolza wrote on Jun 18, 2013, 14:23:
RollinThundr wrote on Jun 18, 2013, 14:06:
Oh for sure, but just giving up our rights because some in power want to go the totalitarian route isn't the answer either.

Lord forgive me for responding to TrollinThundr, but here we go.

This is a classic straw-man argument. Neither side supports this. Who on this board, or anywhere else, advocates doing nothing when rights are taken away? Even those that support the governments monitoring program say it's because it (debatably) follows due process as established in the Constitution. Do you really only see conservatives upset at government monitoring? Are you aware that the ACLU, who's entire mission is to uphold the constitution, is perceived as a leftist organization? Why do you insist on constantly saying stupid stuff like this?

You've also completely failed to address the issue being discussed, which is the libertarian disconnect from reality.

You notice I mention people on both sides, both Dems and Republicans. Or was that point lost on you?

Pretending that their aren't those in power regardless if there's a D or R after their name don't want to go that route makes you out to be quite naive. It's about as intelligent to say that as it is for Beamer to continually state that being personally responsible for your own life isn't reality.

Look at all the scandals with this administration, most of which border on constitutionality to begin with. Wake the fuck up brother.
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