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65. Re: Morning Metaverse Mar 14, 2013, 09:14 yuastnav
 
InBlack wrote on Mar 14, 2013, 08:38:
@yustnav:

1. Science is nothing like religion, please look up the definition of the scientific method because nothing you (or Kuhn) have stated actually holds water. The only reason science 'appears' in some ways to resemble religion is because humans are irrational beings who live in their imagination. Remember that an 'appearance' of similarity does not indicate similarity itself.
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Are... are you serious?
I do have to say that I am a bit speechless now.
"The Structure of Scientific Revolutions", the book that was written by the physicist and philosopher Thomas S. Kuhn, caused an uproar in the scientific community and forever changed how science was viewed, by scientists but also by non-scientists, in the whole world.
Don't get me wrong, you can still claim that "nothing that Kuhn has stated holds water", but I would at first advise you to acquaint yourself with his works and think properly about it because the way I presented it may have been not entirely true and does Kuhn no justice.
It's not some "crazy idea" that someone thought up overnight and which is barely known, quite contrary it, or rather a modification of it, is a well accepted theory of how scientific progress works.

InBlack wrote on Mar 14, 2013, 08:38:
@yustnav:
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2. You can argue semantics with me all day long but I dont believe that god or gods (divine beings whatever) exist. How does my lack of belief indicate another belief? I also dont believe that unicorns exist. Does that mean i BELIEVE that unicorns dont exist? Quit your circular and flawed logic and trust me even if you cant understand this very simple logic. Atheism IS NOT A BELIEF system. It is a lack of one.

Of course that means that you belief that unicorns don't exist. How is that flawed or circular? And please stop being so damn condescending as if you know it all.
When I say that I don't believe that magic exists that means I believe that magic does not exist. When I don't believe that a fifth fundamental force does not exist I believe that a fifth fundamental force does not exist.
I just rewrote it in a different way but the main statement is still the same.

[edit]
I agree that this is arguing semantics. Maybe it is different for different atheists. Some believe that there is no god and other know there is no god.
But then I come back to my previous point where I state that there are few things you can truly *know*. Oh well.

This comment was edited on Mar 14, 2013, 09:24.
 
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