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189. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 8, 2012, 11:15 Beamer
 
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 8, 2012, 10:09:
Dades wrote on Nov 7, 2012, 21:40:
RollinThundr wrote on Nov 7, 2012, 16:32:
What arguments are those? I've consistantly said the same thing in nearly every post when it comes to politics. Stop spending so much money.

Which subsections of the proposed budget did you take issue with?
Obamacare is not an acceptable answer, its a news soundbite that is used on the uninformed and easily influenced. Sections, lines and numbers of the budget you are criticizing. You are so concerned with how government money is spent, I'm assuming you did some research into it instead of just getting vague talking points from the news to regurgitate. Which budget? Fiscal 2013? 2014? Did you compare historicals?

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What proposed budget are you referring to? Obama's budget proposals, the whole 2 or so that he made, both got utterly destroyed and laughed out of voting. When your budget proposals get shot down 414-0 and you're own party won't buy in you have a problem.

The GOP's issue is they keep sticking their foot in their mouth with stupid comments about rape, and talking about blocking everything, at this point, the dictat..er President has another term, time to get some shit done because regardless, we're still going to be spending hand over foot with this guy in office, and his main focus is still going to be dividing the country with class warfare like he's done for 4 years already and growing the government with things like his Julia proposal.

But when it comes to spending changes need to be made. Militarily we need to be leaner and just plain smarter, 9/11 changed alot in rules as to who is accepted in, guys with criminal records and the like, that needs to change. Alot of units and battalions are still using equipment from the late 70's early 80's, expensive to maintain as well. All the personnel we still have overseas in places like Japan that have been there since the end of WW2, there's really no need for us to still be there, that would cut some spending there.

Medicare/caid/SS I don't have answers here but its 70% of our spending, but there has to be a better way, but to be honest I don't think they'll be a SS when I'm old enough to retire and I doubt I'll ever see any of that money I've paid into it already over the years.

Obamacare is a tax and an abuse of the commerce clause, why anyone is for it is beyond me, guess people like the government telling them what to do and putting bureaucratic bs between them and their doctors.

Pet projects We all know they exist cut the shit politicians.
NPR/PBS/like minded types of spending, yes they're small amounts, but government should not be funding these types of entities, and honestly PBS could get by on the donations they already get anyway.


End lobbying, this has less to do with spending but I'll toss that out for good measure.

End Politicians making a salary/benefits for life

Smarter better teachers rather than just more. There are so many just plan awful people teaching these days who's unions protect them.


Just a few things off the top of my head but at anyrate, regardless of where it is that cuts/changes are made, it has to happen.

Though I disagree with you on healthcare (SOMETHING needs to be done, HMOs are not the answer, and it's clearly not unconstitutional), and I think the teacher issue is a tricky one (in that "better" is not necessarily possible), I actually agree with you on every single one of these points, to some extent.
 
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