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ThinkNext has previews of
all sorts of features in Windows 7, one of which is the ability to scan for
automatic updates for installed games, apparently in the vein of the automatic
online updates for Windows and Office. They show a setup screen where Windows
offers the option of scanning for updates to installed games, and the installer
does not seem to make a particular distinction about whether these are official
Games for Windows or not. Thanks
Shacknews.
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Sep 23, 2008, 13:15 |
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ps. I think ThinkNext has taken down the article, claiming MS have told him to.
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Sep 23, 2008, 13:12 |
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Save games are a bloody nightmare. [...] My vote goes on them all being saved in the My Documents. That way, every user on a PC has their own savegames and they're not interfered with by another user (unless they choose to copy it over). It also means that they'll be in the most likely place to be included in a backup.
IMO Windows should not be automatically updating games. Games should be automatically detecting updates on load and then asking you if you want to update. Which is pretty much what happens. I really don't see any point except as an excuse for a "Genuine Advantage" thing.
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Sep 23, 2008, 11:42 |
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Save games are a bloody nightmare. Peggle thinks it's fine to store them in C:\ProgramData (a hidden folder), while The Witcher uses My Documents and STALKER: SoC users C:\Users\all users\documents. How the fuck am I meant to know where they're all going? They should all be kept in My Documents or the install directory. It would be great if there was a tool that allowed you to backup all save games, preferably built into Windows. I've lost countless saves because I missed a folder when preparing for a reinstall of Windows.
Still, I have zero confidence in this feature. I remember when Vista was supposed to be designed for games, with the Ultimate edition supposedly being specially optimised to disable unrelated background services. I already buy most of my games through Steam, so I already have auto-patching, and Valve are preparing Steam Cloud, which will allow me to backup save games online. So Microsoft is approaching where Valve was 4yrs ago for an operating system that is still at least a year off... great. I apologise for not sounding very excited.
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Sep 23, 2008, 10:35 |
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how much you want to bet the Windows Game Update rips out your NoCD patched .exe file every time you boot. Or some such PITA for any mods.
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Sep 23, 2008, 09:58 |
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And then there's someone on my computer wipe out my save game even though they're on a different XP account, which happens if you've ever had siblings or you have a family. I fully second this. Backing up game saves is a total PITA now a days. Hell Vista has a saved games folder created but NO ONE USES IT.
Christ anyone who has backed up Mass Effect PC saves knows what a total clusterfuck this is.
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Sep 23, 2008, 05:31 |
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I have no problem with this so long as -
(A) I can turn it off without it taking up any resources.
(B) It stays off without nagging to be turned back on.
(C) Certain games don't rely on it exclusively as a way of updating.
(D) It's not just DRM in disguise.
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Sep 23, 2008, 01:56 |
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Just imagine you just entered the last level when up pops a message saying the game is being updated and restarting.
Then finding ( as is usually the case ) your save game is not compatible with the update.
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Sep 23, 2008, 01:25 |
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Which they'd keep games and the OS separate. I thought it was bad enough when games started putting their saves in my documents. This is one thing they needed to "borrow" from Linux a long time ago. User preferences should go in the user's home directory. Game files go in the game folder. I shouldn't have to go digging around through the game's filesystem in order to backup my save games. And then there's someone on my computer wipe out my save game even though they're on a different XP account, which happens if you've ever had siblings or you have a family.
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Sep 22, 2008, 23:36 |
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So game updates will be just like windows updates? Windows will throw a fit if you don't have automatic updates enabled, when you do it manually it gives the simplest explanation of the what the patch does 'MAKES GAME WORK BETTER', and picks the most inopportune time to update.
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OS and Games should be seperate |
Sep 22, 2008, 23:13 |
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Which they'd keep games and the OS separate. I thought it was bad enough when games started putting their saves in my documents.
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Sep 22, 2008, 23:07 |
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Most intriguing, but will they patch System Shock 2 to finally work? The intrigue stops here. It does work on XP and Vista. Just need to know what you're doing.
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Sep 22, 2008, 21:47 |
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System Shock works with both XP and Vista so long as you run it on one core. There are plenty of forums that have covered this subject to death.
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Sep 22, 2008, 21:18 |
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Most intriguing, but will they patch System Shock 2 to finally work?
And no, don't tell me it does, I've tried all of their voodoo tricks, and it just plain does not work on XP. |
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Sep 22, 2008, 21:07 |
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You will always be able to get the patch for a game faster from the website/forum of the game.
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Sep 22, 2008, 20:57 |
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I say it's about damn time |
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Sep 22, 2008, 20:50 |
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They can't even fix their own code and they want to help patch someone elses?
I assume it's more in the vein of game developers being able to put their patches on Windows Update so there is a centralized location you can find patches. I doubt Microsoft would be the one doing the patching work. 
ofcourse, it stands to reason that your game will then be subjected to Microsoft's "validation" system and who knows what kind of funky effects that will have.
I doubt anyone really has a problem finding patches these days. So it's another attempt to make the next Windows more interesting for gamers, and again it fails.
Microsoft doesn't seem to understand that the only thing gamers want is
A) Less Bloat.
B) More Performance.
Instead, Microsoft keeps adding more bloat that fucks up your performance. Gee, I wonder why Vista isn't selling amongst gamers so well?
Creston
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